THE LEVITES WERE SET APART AS GOD'S PEOPLE. THEY WERE NOT TO DO AS OTHER NATIONS DID, OR ELSE THEY WOULD BECOME UNCLEAN (UNSANCTIFIED BEFORE GOD). MANY SCHOLARS BELIEVE THAT THE REASON THE DEATH PENALTY WAS IMPOSED WAS BECAUSE HOMOSEXUAL INTERCOURSE WAS USED BY NEIGHBORING NATIONS IN RITUALS TO FALSE GODS.
Originally posted by FeceMan
THE LEVITES WERE SET APART AS GOD'S PEOPLE. THEY WERE NOT TO DO AS OTHER NATIONS DID, OR ELSE THEY WOULD BECOME UNCLEAN (UNSANCTIFIED BEFORE GOD). MANY SCHOLARS BELIEVE THAT THE REASON THE DEATH PENALTY WAS IMPOSED WAS BECAUSE HOMOSEXUAL INTERCOURSE WAS USED BY NEIGHBORING NATIONS IN RITUALS TO FALSE GODS.
what about the sexual intercourse that had nothing to do with False Gods ? 😉
Is God so lazy that he clumps all people together ?
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
what about the sexual intercourse that had nothing to do with False Gods ? 😉Is God so lazy that he clumps all people together ?
Originally posted by FeceMan
To elaborate for someone who might be genuinely curious and not using the verses of the Old Testament to attack Christianity:The verses stating that we are to put homosexuals to death--actually, it is the act of homosexual intercourse that was cause for death, not the homosexuality, though that is largely irrelevant with regard to this question--are part of the Law, a set of rules given to the people devoted to God. The Law was communicated through angels and the purpose was to set apart those who followed God from those who did not. Included in the Law were animal sacrifices as a means to atone for sin and cleanse uncleanliness caused by violations to the Law. However, with the sacrifice of Christ, Christians are no longer bound to the Law because Christ was the perfect sacrifice and gave us the gift of salvation, whereby our sins are forgiven forever--for those of us who choose salvation, that is. Those who do not are under the wrath of God, but that's a matter for another thread.
sup dude
just cause the mosiac law dont condemn a man to death for the 'act' of gay sex, doesnt mean that having thoughts about gay sex aint sinful. sin begins in the heart dude. basically what ur saying wit this argument is that god condones and encourages sinful thought patterns. aint true bro.
if i excessively think about lying, then ive already commited the sin of lying, and if i excessively think bout stealing, then ive already commited the sin of stealing. if i excessively think about having butt sex wit a man, then..well..ya know...same deal as bfore.
im not sure how long a person has to harbor a thought, before god considers the thought sinful, but ya know god is righteous and loving an all, so im sure he makes a fair judgement on this, depending on the person.
so anyway, your wrong ya know. but i do like your name though.
Originally posted by supdude
sup dudejust cause the mosiac law dont condemn a man to death for the 'act' of gay sex, doesnt mean that having thoughts about gay sex aint sinful. sin begins in the heart dude. basically what ur saying wit this argument is that god condones and encourages sinful thought patterns. aint true bro.
if i excessively think about lying, then ive already commited the sin of lying, and if i excessively think bout stealing, then ive already commited the sin of stealing. if i excessively think about having butt sex wit a man, then..well..ya know...same deal as bfore.
im not sure how long a person has to harbor a thought, before god considers the thought sinful, but ya know god is righteous and loving an all, so im sure he makes a fair judgement on this, depending on the person.
so anyway, your wrong ya know. but i do like your name though.
Wrongful thinking leads to wrongful actions.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
not neccesarily I have wanted to kill several people but I didn't do itif you start equation thoughts and actions you get into the Thought Police
I did not say "Wrongful thinking equals wrongful actions" I said "Wrongful thinking leads to wrongful actions". If you spend 10 years thinking about killing someone, you will most likely try to kill that person.
Originally posted by supdude
sup dudejust cause the mosiac law dont condemn a man to death for the 'act' of gay sex, doesnt mean that having thoughts about gay sex aint sinful. sin begins in the heart dude. basically what ur saying wit this argument is that god condones and encourages sinful thought patterns. aint true bro.
if i excessively think about lying, then ive already commited the sin of lying, and if i excessively think bout stealing, then ive already commited the sin of stealing. if i excessively think about having butt sex wit a man, then..well..ya know...same deal as bfore.
im not sure how long a person has to harbor a thought, before god considers the thought sinful, but ya know god is righteous and loving an all, so im sure he makes a fair judgement on this, depending on the person.
so anyway, your wrong ya know. but i do like your name though.
That's silly.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I did not say "Wrongful thinking equals wrongful actions" I said "Wrongful thinking [B]leads to wrongful actions". If you spend 10 years thinking about killing someone, you will most likely try to kill that person. [/B]
Or I could get over it before that happens
If every time you have a sinful thought it means you will commit that sin then life would be a costant horrific orgy of destruction (which I guess it kinda is)
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Or I could get over it before that happensIf every time you have a sinful thought it means you will commit that sin then life would be a costant horrific orgy of destruction (which I guess it kinda is)
You can choose not to listen, but wrongful thinking leads to wrongful action. What you do is up to you...
Originally posted by Nellinator
When you think about bad things, you may not do the exact thing that you thought of, but your behaviour and demeanor will still be negatively affected. If you want to kill someone for ten years, you may not kill them, but you may be short tempered, rude, etc. with them, all of which are negative.
OK I like that way of looking at it
but for some sins I don't think it applies
Originally posted by FeceMan
They were to be set apart. Therefore, no anal sex whatsoever (though, theoretically, the Levites would have understood that Yahweh meant only ass sex for the purpose of rituals, but we don't know that).
So then you would agree with me that the Bible is not clear on many things.....
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I did not say "Wrongful thinking equals wrongful actions" I said "Wrongful thinking [B]leads to wrongful actions". If you spend 10 years thinking about killing someone, you will most likely try to kill that person. [/B]
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
That's silly.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
So then you would agree with me that the Bible is not clear on many things.....
sup dude..
no i dont agree. many peeps aint looking for truth. they just lookin for things that make them feel good. some peeps cloud things up and make the bible unclear, cause they dont like what they haer.