Originally posted by Quiero Mota
A lot of predators will find prey by intercepting their pheromones and tracking them down. How is that subconscious, or not sensed?
I'll take your word for it, although I thought things usually hunted through scent.
iirc, the human nose has both olfactory (smell) and pheromone receptors, each going to a different part of the brain. In animals it would be the same, I guess... ummm, it is possible that activity in the pheromone receptors and cortical area could trigger the same type of thing as smell does in predators that use it, it would just be a different type of experience then smelling, though a trigger for "food this way" or "danger, other animal's turf".
But like, you are talking about the "sense" of smell, and no, pheromones wouldn't have that.
Originally posted by inimalist
I'll take your word for it, although I thought things usually hunted through scent.iirc, the human nose has both olfactory (smell) and pheromone receptors, each going to a different part of the brain. In animals it would be the same, I guess... ummm, it is possible that activity in the pheromone receptors and cortical area could trigger the same type of thing as smell does in predators that use it, it would just be a different type of experience then smelling, though a trigger for "food this way" or "danger, other animal's turf".
But like, you are talking about the "sense" of smell, and no, pheromones wouldn't have that.
Wo wo wo...careful with that talk. You have to be thorough about signal transduction or you are only partly right. 😉 (No...I wasn't making fun of you; that was referential to someone else.)
These pheromone "receptors" are simply indistinguishable from the olfactory receptors...meaning, there is no difference, as far as we can tell, between human pheromone receptors and any other olfactory receptors. They are one in the same.
http://www.genomenewsnetwork.org/articles/08_00/human_pheromone.shtml
However, the brain processes the "smell" of pheromones differently than say a delicious steak.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
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Originally posted by dadudemon
Wo wo wo...careful with that talk. You have to be thorough about signal transduction or you are only partly right. 😉 (No...I wasn't making fun of you; that was referential to someone else.)These pheromone "receptors" are simply indistinguishable from the olfactory receptors...meaning, there is no difference, as far as we can tell, between human pheromone receptors and any other olfactory receptors. They are one in the same.
http://www.genomenewsnetwork.org/articles/08_00/human_pheromone.shtml
However, the brain processes the "smell" of pheromones differently than say a delicious steak.
that report actually says they cannot identify the cells that are receptors. It does however conclude that pheromone detection in humans is done through the olfactory system. According to Linda Buck (2004) there are over 350 types of receptors in the olfactory system of humans.
EDIT: Why not give these abstracts a read:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18096815?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17917120?ordinalpos=3&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
Originally posted by Devil King
do they know if the food is male or female, and base their reaction off that understanding?
My point was, that the animal detected it and it wasn't just some from of subconscious, out-of-their-control drive.
It happens all the time in the wild: a cougar senses the mating pheromones of a deer in heat, and the hunt is on.
Is homosexual behavior a sin? Yes [Leviticus 18:22; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9-11]. However, it is important to note that having homosexual feelings is not necessarily a sin, if one does not act on them. Temptation does not equal transgression [Hebrews 4:15]. But there is a caveat; all lust, whether heterosexual or homosexual, is sin [1 Peter 4:3]. If you capitulate to your feelings, lust will result.
That said, it is important to remember that all people are sinners who fall short of God's holy perfection [Romans 3:23], and homosexual behavior is no worse than any other sin. For example, the above mentioned passage [1 Corinthians 6:9-11] lists the following sins as equally problematic.
-any sexual activity prior to marriage (fornication)
-the worship of any god other than Yahweh (idolatry)
-any sexual activity outside your marriage (adultery)
-behaving in an effeminate manner (men only)
-engaging in homosexual behavior
-committing theft
-envying people
-getting drunk
-abusing people
-swindling people
The Bible says that any and all of these sins will keep a person out of God's kingdom. In truth, ANY sin will keep a person out of heaven -- and we're all sinners.
The good news is, no matter what you've done, God is ready to forgive you if you will turn away from your sins and acknowledge the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior and King [Mark 1:15; Romans 10:9].
Someone might say, "God made me gay. I was born with these feelings and it's not fair for God to tell me I can't pursue them."
The truth is, every single person on earth is born with a sinful nature, and God wasn't the one who gave it to us. We inherited it from Adam, our original human father [1 Corinthians 15:22] who rebelled against God and introduced sin into the human experience. Every one of us has certain weaknesses to particular sins. One person has a weakness for theft, while another can't seem to tell the truth to save his life. Another person has a mean streak, while yet another can't keep a secret. No one is strong. No one is bullet proof.
Most of us have some vulnerability to sexual sin -- men especially. Whether this vulnerability is heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, transsexual, bestial, necrophilial, or some other variety, it really doesn't matter. Sin is sin.
"Hold on," some will object, "I refuse to live my life alone! You have no idea what you're asking of me."
No one said you have to be alone or unfulfilled. But don't buy into the lie that emotional fulfillment can only come from a relationship God has deemed unhealthy. Ultimate fulfillment comes from having a relationship with your Creator. Whatever you need, He can provide it. Whatever requires changing, He can change it. And if your need is for a loving pair of arms to wrap around you and share the comfort and encouragement we all yearn from time to time, this is available in spades through the body of Christ -- the community of Christian believers. Satan wants us to think that sex is the solution, when all any of us truly needs is real, lasting, unconditional, supernatural love. That's what Jesus offers. That's why I follow Him.
Originally posted by Tim Rout
Is homosexual behavior a sin? Yes [Leviticus 18:22; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9-11]. However, it is important to note that having homosexual feelings is not necessarily a sin, if one does not act on them. Temptation does not equal transgression [Hebrews 4:15]. But there is a caveat; all lust, whether heterosexual or homosexual, is sin [1 Peter 4:3]. If you capitulate to your feelings, lust will result.That said, it is important to remember that all people are sinners who fall short of God's holy perfection [Romans 3:23], and homosexual behavior is no worse than any other sin. For example, the above mentioned passage [1 Corinthians 6:9-11] lists the following sins as equally problematic.
-any sexual activity prior to marriage (fornication)
-the worship of any god other than Yahweh (idolatry)
-any sexual activity outside your marriage (adultery)
-behaving in an effeminate manner (men only)
-engaging in homosexual behavior
-committing theft
-envying people
-getting drunk
-abusing people
-swindling peopleThe Bible says that any and all of these sins will keep a person out of God's kingdom. In truth, ANY sin will keep a person out of heaven -- and we're all sinners.
The good news is, no matter what you've done, God is ready to forgive you if you will turn away from your sins and acknowledge the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior and King [Mark 1:15; Romans 10:9].
Someone might say, "God made me gay. I was born with these feelings and it's not fair for God to tell me I can't pursue them."
The truth is, every single person on earth is born with a sinful nature, and God wasn't the one who gave it to us. We inherited it from Adam, our original human father [1 Corinthians 15:22] who rebelled against God and introduced sin into the human experience. Every one of us has certain weaknesses to particular sins. One person has a weakness for theft, while another can't seem to tell the truth to save his life. Another person has a mean streak, while yet another can't keep a secret. No one is strong. No one is bullet proof.
Most of us have some vulnerability to sexual sin -- men especially. Whether this vulnerability is heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, transsexual, bestial, necrophilial, or some other variety, it really doesn't matter. Sin is sin.
"Hold on," some will object, "I refuse to live my life alone! You have no idea what you're asking of me."
No one said you have to be alone or unfulfilled. But don't buy into the lie that emotional fulfillment can only come from a relationship God has deemed unhealthy. Ultimate fulfillment comes from having a relationship with your Creator. Whatever you need, He can provide it. Whatever requires changing, He can change it. And if your need is for a loving pair of arms to wrap around you and share the comfort and encouragement we all yearn from time to time, this is available in spades through the body of Christ -- the community of Christian believers. Satan wants us to think that sex is the solution, when all any of us truly needs is real, lasting, unconditional, supernatural love. That's what Jesus offers. That's why I follow Him.
While you seem to be a hell of a lot nicer than most Christians about homosexuality, you will be mocked by others here. They don't want to be told that homosexuality is wrong; they want scientific reasons for the whys homosexuality.
That is a great perspective to have if you are a devout Christian. Running around hating people would not be Christ-like.
Originally posted by dadudemonObviously being told something is wrong because of a 2000+ year old text is not something any rational person, especially if they are the ones that participate in the condemned behaviour, appreciates.
While you seem to be a hell of a lot nicer than most Christians about homosexuality, you will be mocked by others here. They don't want to be told that homosexuality is wrong; they want scientific reasons for the whys homosexuality.That is a great perspective to have if you are a devout Christian. Running around hating people would not be Christ-like.
Originally posted by dadudemonObviously being told something harmless and generally private is wrong because of a 2000+ year old text is not something any rational person, especially if they are the ones that participate in the condemned behaviour, appreciates.
While you seem to be a hell of a lot nicer than most Christians about homosexuality, you will be mocked by others here. They don't want to be told that homosexuality is wrong; they want scientific reasons for the whys homosexuality.That is a great perspective to have if you are a devout Christian. Running around hating people would not be Christ-like.
Originally posted by dadudemonI didn't comment on that matter, but since you put me on the spot, I agree that he has a better approach than some fundamental Christians, I disagree that he seems nicer than most Christians, I don't know whether he will get bashed and if he will I propose that my post describes the reason for it.
Sooo, are you disagreeing with me? 😕