On Homosexuality & Religion [Merged]

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
I haven't read anything in the web site that proves th bible wrong. They are misunderstanding it.

Ok, lets go back to the root. Who wrote the bible?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
a) nothing can be proven wrong, go take a course in logic
b) I disagree with many of the things in the Bible (I agree with far more tbh). That's something wrong with it unless you can provide positive proof that the Bible (which you refuse to capitalize, I assume out of spite of Jesus) anything in the Bible is "right" to "correct" without referring to the Bible itself in your proof.

Look I don't really care about your beliefs. Unlike a lot of people here I very much respect religious faith and the belief in God. The problem is you are making claims and backing them with claims of logic while not using logic. You're welcome to say that because you see the Bible as being against homosexuality it is wrong, but when you say that logic dictates the same idea you deserve to be torn apart in a debate.

I never said the bible was completely right, nor did i say it was completely wrong. I did say that the bible has not yet been proven wrong. You guys specifically said the bible has a lot of things wrong in it, so i asked for proof.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Ok, lets go back to the root. Who wrote the bible?

Many...

I read the Genesis part of the link you gave me. They are confusing what a day equals to God. Over a thousand years to us equal about a day to God.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Many...

Many what?

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
I never said the bible was completely right, nor did i say it was completely wrong. I did say that the bible has not yet been proven wrong. You guys specifically said the bible has a lot of things wrong in it, so i asked for proof.

And I gave you proof. Just because you find one thing in that web site that you can dispute, does not mean it is all wrong. You have to dispute every claim.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
And I gave you proof. Just because you find one thing in that web site that you can dispute, does not mean it is all wrong. You have to dispute every claim.

I don't think anyone has that much time. I even doubt you read all of it. Do you think if all those claims hve not been solved that the bible or christianity would be the most popular belief today?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Many what?

You should have asked who all wrote the Bible.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
I never said the bible was completely right, nor did i say it was completely wrong. I did say that the bible has not yet been proven wrong. You guys specifically said the bible has a lot of things wrong in it, so i asked for proof.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
I'm still waiting for you to post something that the Bible got right.

Well read the book of Revelations and Daniel. Also in either Mathew, Mark, Luke, or John, Jesus prophesied about a lot of the technology of our day such as the air planes and all of that.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Well read the book of Revelations and Daniel. Also in either Mathew, Mark, Luke, or John, Jesus prophesied about a lot of the technology of our day such as the air planes and all of that.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
Again, I'm still waiting for proof. What did they say for a fact and not speculation? Dick Tracy said that we would have TVs on our wrist, does that make him as good as the Bible too?

Back then they were not them well along technology as we are today, so it is easier to expect more today.

Also the bible tell of Noah's arc, and describes it to a tee. In our day Noah's arc has been discovered exactly like the Bible described it. Is that also speculation, or just a coincedence?

You are still speculating, what exactly did they say that leads you to believe they were talking about airplanes? Long before the Bible was ever written people talked about traveling through the air, so what is your point again?

Last time I checked they haven't found the Arc, only what looks like a rock formation that resembles it, and yes you are still speculating. Even if they do find the Arc was does that prove, that was history not the future. The Bible is nothing more than a history book and fantasy stories. You still have not said anything that has been proven in the Bible.

So why do you not capitalize the word Bible?

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
I don't think anyone has that much time. I even doubt you read all of it. Do you think if all those claims hve not been solved that the bible or christianity would be the most popular belief today?

Popularity has nothing to do with being correct.

The fact that there are so many things listed on that web site shows that even if just a fraction are true biblical errors, then my assertion that many things are wrong in the bible is correct.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
You should have asked who all wrote the Bible.

The answer is: humans wrote the bible, and humans are flawed. Therefore, the bible is also flawed.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The answer is: humans wrote the bible, and humans are flawed. Therefore, the bible is also flawed.

Not when being monitered by God himself while writing it. which supposedly they were by God's active force.

I can write a story of my sister's life, and make some writing errors, but that doesn't mean the events were wrong.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Popularity has nothing to do with being correct.

The fact that there are so many things listed on that web site shows that even if just a fraction are true biblical errors, then my assertion that many things are wrong in the bible is correct.

Have you went back and went over the bible your self, or are you taking that site for granted?

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Not when being monitored by God himself while writing it. which supposedly they were by God's active force.

I can write a story of my sister's life, and make some writing errors, but that doesn't mean the events were wrong.

God monitored? Please explain, in detail. How does your god do this?

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Have you went back and went over the bible your self, or are you taking that site for granted?

I do not have to read the bible to know that there are many errors in it. Just like I don't have to read Einstein's Theory of Relativity to know that it is right. I can rely on the work that other people have done.

All I have to do is find many errors in the bible to be correct. Now, take your time and dispute all the claims on that web site, and then we can move on to the next one.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Have you went back and went over the bible your self, or are you taking that site for granted?