On Homosexuality & Religion [Merged]

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It also doesn't meant that events are right, or that your sister even exists.

God monitored? Please explain, in detail. How does your god do this?

I said supposedely Gods active force was in them, or a lot of times God gave the writers visions through dreams. He must have communicated with them some how, or how else would have Noah known have to build an arc for the flood?

Don't say the arc never existed, because it was actually found, exactly as the Bible described it.

Actually to say something has errors you have to read for yourself, not go by what someone else says. They could be lying, or misunderstanding. I actually read through quite a bit of the site. Who ever made the site up was taking metaphorical statements of the bible literally.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
I said supposedely Gods active force was in them, or a lot of times God gave the writers visions through dreams. He must have communicated with them some how, or how else would have Noah known have to build an arc for the flood?

Don't say the arc never existed, because it was actually found, exactly as the Bible described it.

The arc has never been found, so prove me wrong. There has never been a flood that covered the entire Earth. However, we are way off topic now.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
As for me I have read the Bible many times. So if what you say is true and God used their hands to write his words then that must mean that his words are perfect and timeless and can NEVER be wrong because God is without error and perfect. So if there is one thing in the Bible from the first page to the last that is incorrect or is not timeless then God is flawed, if something is hard to understand then God is flawed, if something contradicts another then God is flawed...

Maybe you are just understanding what you read. Can you piont out an error to me?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The arc has never been found, so prove me wrong. There has never been a flood that covered the entire Earth. However, we are way off topic now.

The arc has been found. It has been shown on the discovery channel quite often.

A lot of scientists have proven that there was a flood, but a lot of them believe it was caused by the Niburu planet, or by some other means.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
The arc has been found. It has been shown on the discovery channel quite often.

A lot of scientists have proven that there was a flood, but a lot of them believe it was caused by the Niburu planet, or by some other means.

I saw that show you are talking about, and all they found was a rock formation, and some wood that is way too young, and on a different part of the mountain.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Maybe you are just understanding what you read. Can you piont out an error to me?

Let me ask you this, do you believe everything in the Bible to be absoulty true and without error?

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
The arc has been found. It has been shown on the discovery channel quite often.

A lot of scientists have proven that there was a flood, but a lot of them believe it was caused by the Niburu planet, or by some other means.

I have seen the show and several other about it and no it is not proven to be the Arc, there are many people that believe it to be like you but you also need to read the evidence that disproves it as well and there are several threads already created about it. Again I ask you even if they found the Arc what would that prove, it happened in the past and not the future.

A little reading for you

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I saw that show you are talking about, and all they found was a rock formation, and some wood that is way too young, and on a different part of the mountain.

No we must be talking about two different shows. The found like half of the arc, which was shaped exactly as the bible described. It even had a lot of windows towards the top.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
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Let me ask you this, do you believe everything in the Bible to be absoulty true and without error?

A local flood yes, but nothing even close to covering the Earth by any means.

I have seen the show and several other about it and no it is not proven to be the Arc, there are many people that believe it to be like you but you also need to read the evidence that disproves it as well and there are several threads already created about it. Again I ask you even if they found the Arc what would that prove, it happened in the past and not the future.

A little reading for you

Whether i believe the Bible to have errors or not is irrelevent, unless i can point out the errors.

I already pointed out things the Bible said about the future. Whether it was speculation or not, it all came true. Besides the Bible went into a lot of detail for it to be just speculation.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
No we must be talking about two different shows. The found like half of the arc, which was shaped exactly as the bible described. It even had a lot of windows towards the top.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Whether i believe the Bible to have errors or not is irrelevent, unless i can point out the errors.

I already pointed out things the Bible said about the future. Whether it was speculation or not, it all came true. Besides the Bible went into a lot of detail for it to be just speculation.

So let us look at this.
Proverbs 30:5 (King James Version)
Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.

So if the Bible is the exact word of God then everything in the Bible has to be true down to the last word. If there is any flaws at all or anything in the Bible that is not true then the Bible can not be the word of God but the Word of man.

The only thing that you have said that proves that the Bible predicted the future is that it talked about airplanes which I asked you to provide the text that you claim talks about airplanes which you have not provided. Your other was that it said that no government created by man will last forever and I have already answered that question which you have yet to respond to.

Still God did not write the Bible himself he had humans write it. So there may be a chance of errors. Doesn't prove that the events did not take place. The bible would still be the word of God, because he gave orders to write it. Many authors today use others to type out stories for them, but that does not mean it is not their story because they did not write them, and also does not mean the person typing it will not make mistakes.

You still have not proven any of my points wrong. You asked to provide you with Prophecies the bible has told, and i have. Your reply was that it was speculation, will still does not prove it wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y5ORpMTebI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE7nN80dIw8

Seems like they have more proof that it is the same arc that is mentioned in the bible, than they do that it isn't.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2MNCkyg0ik

I was not able to find the exact same program i was talking about, but ill keep trying.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Still God did not write the Bible himself he had humans write it. So there may be a chance of errors. Doesn't prove that the events did not take place. The bible would still be the word of God, because he gave orders to write it. Many authors today use others to type out stories for them, but that does not mean it is not their story because they did not write them, and also does not mean the person typing it will not make mistakes.

You still have not proven any of my points wrong. You asked to provide you with Prophecies the bible has told, and i have. Your reply was that it was speculation, will still does not prove it wrong.

You have not proved or even given me the link to support your airplane claim so how can I disprove something that you will not provide? I have already debunked your government post, which you have nicely not responded to. You Arc links are also debunked with the link that I have provided, as you can read there is plenty of evidence debunking that one as well. Even B.A.S.E says that after testing this is not the Arc and that they will continue looking, after all they haven't found the "gopher wood" yet, which no one knows what the hell that is. You find me some gopher wood and then you got yourself's an Arc.

A question for SIDIOUS 66:

The following question is about homosexual marriage.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I have one question that I wish that a fundamentalist Christian would answer for me. So far, no one has been able to answer the question:

How does the marriage statues of people who are not part of your religion degrade marriage within your religion?

For example: polygamy is also a sin, and not allowed by Christian belief. How does the fact the many Muslim nations allow polygamy effect marriage in the Christian world?

Originally posted by Da Pittman
What in the bloody hell are you talking about, seriously. One minute you say that it is the word of God then you say it is not, then you say that it is written by God through man then you say it is not. Did God dictate his story to the men witting the Bible, if not then how can man write the Word of God?

You have not proved or even given me the link to support your airplane claim so how can I disprove something that you will not provide? I have already debunked your government post, which you have nicely not responded to. You Arc links are also debunked with the link that I have provided, as you can read there is plenty of evidence debunking that one as well. Even B.A.S.E says that after testing this is not the Arc and that they will continue looking, after all they haven't found the "gopher wood" yet, which no one knows what the hell that is. You find me some gopher wood and then you got yourself's an Arc.

I never said the Bible was not the word of God. You are putting words in my mouth. I said the ones writng for him could have....COULD HAVE made errors. It is also possible that when humans started translating the Bible they could have made the errors and not the original hebrew and greek scriptures.

As far as the arc it seems they are having a harder time trying to prove it is not the arc spoken of in the Bible.

I will get to you with a verse of the Bible where Jesus foretells of plains, and about the governments. I don't have a bible on hand right at the moment. BTW how are you going to disprove of something if you never even heard of it?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
A question for SIDIOUS 66:

The following question is about homosexual marriage.

I guess it wouldn't affect them. How would it? I don't get why you directed the question at me.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
I guess it wouldn't affect them. How would it? I don't get why you directed the question at me.

Why do you say them? Does it effect you, and your view of marriage?

I directed the question at you because you display a great number of fundamentalist Christian points of view. I also wanted to return the topic back to something to do with homosexuality and religion.

Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
I never said the Bible was not the word of God. You are putting words in my mouth. I said the ones writng for him could have....COULD HAVE made errors. It is also possible that when humans started translating the Bible they could have made the errors and not the original hebrew and greek scriptures.

As far as the arc it seems they are having a harder time trying to prove it is not the arc spoken of in the Bible.

I will get to you with a verse of the Bible where Jesus foretells of plains, and about the governments. I don't have a bible on hand right at the moment. BTW how are you going to disprove of something if you never even heard of it?

As for the Arc they are having a harder time trying to prove that it is and not that it is not, they speculate on things that they cannot understand or conceive of. The link that I posted is full of explanations of the different things that they found. Even B.A.S.E has said that they have not found the Arc.

As for disproving something that I have not heard of, you are correct until you post your evidence that the Bible predicted planes. Once you have posted your “proof” then I can take a look at your evidence and either prove or disprove it. Just because I do not know every passage of the Bible word for word doesn’t mean anything, you present your evidence and your conclusions and I will present mine. You have made the claim and it is your responsibility to provide evidence to validate your claim.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Why do you say them? Does it effect you, and your view of marriage?

I directed the question at you because you display a great number of fundamentalist Christian points of view. I also wanted to return the topic back to something to do with homosexuality and religion.

Originally posted by Da Pittman
How dare you try and keep a thread on topic 😠 😛

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Serves you right....

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