On Homosexuality & Religion [Merged]

Sam Z, if you do not want your children to be exposed to the idea that being "gay is cool" then simply don't let them watch movies like that.

That's all.

In order to FULLY "protect" your children from being exposed to those ideas you would either have to isolate them from any media that may go against your beleifs, or Gay characterization would have to be always in a negative light.....which do you choose ?

No one said "being gay is awesome" on television, its taught that "its ok to be gay" and its true.

Being gay is a not a choice. There are gay virgins, being gay only means that you WANT to have sex with those of the same gender, nothing more.

Your kids will not turn gay, no matter how many people tell them to "be" so RELAX.....

And also the reverse side.....if you DO have a gay child, no amount of telling him or her that he or she is sinning is going to turn them straight.

You cannot turn a gay person straight, just like you cannot turn a straight person gay. It's not a choice, its an integral part of who the person is.

TRUST ME....ur talking to a bisexual right now. I think i know more about the whole gay issue than you would 😉

^ People don't like to realize that the world that they were taught when they grew up, is not the real world. It's too bad for these people, but we, who are enlightened on this subject, have the responsibility to bring these people into reality.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
^ People don't like to realize that the world that they were taught when they grew up, is not the real world. It's too bad for these people, but we, who are enlightened on this subject, have the responsibility to bring these people into reality.

if people aren't raised by religion, they'd have a full understanding on things and there would be no confusion, no hatred, no distrust, and less wars!

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Sam Z, if you do not want your children to be exposed to the idea that being "gay is cool" then simply don't let them watch movies like that.

That's all.

In order to FULLY "protect" your children from being exposed to those ideas you would either have to isolate them from any media that may go against your beleifs, or Gay characterization would have to be always in a negative light.....which do you choose ?

No one said "being gay is awesome" on television, its taught that "its ok to be gay" and its true.

Being gay is a not a choice. There are gay virgins, being gay only means that you WANT to have sex with those of the same gender, nothing more.

Your kids will not turn gay, no matter how many people tell them to "be" so RELAX.....

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
And also the reverse side.....if you DO have a gay child, no amount of telling him or her that he or she is sinning is going to turn them straight.

You cannot turn a gay person straight, just like you cannot turn a straight person gay. It's not a choice, its an integral part of who the person is.

TRUST ME....ur talking to a bisexual right now. I think i know more about the whole gay issue than you would 😉

You know LU, It is not possible to stop children from watching TV, besides it is not about TV but about people you see and talk to everyday. You are now talking about besexuality as if person was one from his burth, but it is not true, I know few cases where people were turned gay, and that's what I'm warried about. I'm talking about public parades and other simmilar things. If you want to be gay it's your chois but no need for showing your interests on public.

Originally posted by lord xyz
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if people aren't raised by religion, they'd have a full understanding on things and there would be no confusion, no hatred, no distrust, and less wars!

It's not religion, it's the type of religion. I was raised as a Christian and I know how bad that can be. However, I am now a Buddhist, and I see young people raised in this religion, and they are some of the most level headed people I know.

Originally posted by Sam Z
I'm talking about public parades and other simmilar things. If you want to be gay it's your chois but no need for showing your interests on public.

I'm not behind many pride events myself, but I find your position to be extreme.

On another note...what if your child is gay. People are born that way, they don't just wake up one day and decide to be gay. THey discover their sexuality eventually just like anyone else. Many gays try to supress it, because they live in fear. If your child is gay, do you wnat him to live in fear of you? Do you wnat him to be afraid to tell you? AS a parent, I think that you couldn't want that. Wouldn't you want him to be happy, even if you weren't? He's your kid, that should be unconditional love.

People don't turn gay just like they don't turn straight.

People REALIZE what they are in time.....you don't know anything about it Sam Z.

'Coming Out" does NOT mean a person turns gay...it means a person realizes they are gay.

A person cannot turn gay just like they cannot turn straight.

Urizen is wrong. Coming out is when poeple publically admit that they are gay. Most know for a long time in advance.

My mistake, ur actually right.

😂 I know. 😄

This is what SCARES ME though.....

For Christians and Muslims, for many of them, it's not about being mean or cruel.

They actually think that by limitting the rights of and insulting homosexuals in general, that they are HELPING....

they really feel they KNOW whats best and that they KNOW everything there is to know about being gay, and that the best solution is to forcibly CHANGE.....

They are NOT OPEN to the idea that homosexuality is PART of the genetic make up of a person and would disregard any science or logic that backs it up.

There IS NO debating with a person like that, they think they already KNOW and thats final .

Well, look at it from their point of view.

If God Himself came and stood in front of you and told you that it was wrong. Would you accept that and try to change? Or would you look at him and ask "who are you to tell me how to live"?

IF GOD HIMSELF told me...i'd be convinced. I'd be logically kidding myself if i didn't see that.

this has never happened though, and i doubt it ever will.

Good for you then. That's all anyone can ask.

Live the way you know best until you find a better way. Everyone should seek truth, even if it's sometimes scary. Everyone has to find their own path in the end.

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How would you recognize God if that happened? ... Just a thought.

Well.....

i would have to know that i was awake, and not skitzo or ne thing of that sort.

This being would have to appear to me physically, because there is no denying a physical presence as false.

He would have to know everything about my life and the way my mind works and why i think what i think.

He would have to do something beyond human ability to prove to me that he is God, i duno some sort of "magic" to prove that he's not human.

Then after he tells me " I want you to be straight" i would ask these questions:

1) Why do you want this? Why does it matter so much to you ?

2) Why did you make me this way ? I never chose this, this was something i really feel that YOU or NATURE gave me....i never wanted this when i was younger, i used to hate myself for liking guys, now that i finally learned to love myself and accept it, you're telling me i need to change......why now ?

3) Why did you allow me to fall severely in LOVE with another guy when it only ended up breaking my heart to know he didn't feel the same way. Why did you allow me to fall in love with a straight guy ? It took me 2 years to get over him, and suppress my thoughts of self worthlessness and suicide. What was the point in that GOD? i never asked for that, so it sure as hell wasn't my choice.

Then i would stop talking about me, and ask him a million other questions like "why did you create Hell, etc....o0o0o i would have sooo0o0 many questions for him !

yeah, isn't it irritating how many questions aren't answered in [insert random religious text here].

THe point is, is that God(s) is(are) not (a) physical presence(s) on this Earth. Its excruciatingly easy to point out all the flaws in indoctrinated religion. Basing your opinions off of contradictory/ambiguous fiction that in milleniums old is rather rediculous imo.

Originally posted by Alliance
THe point is, is that God(s) is(are) not (a) physical presence(s) on this Earth. Its excruciatingly easy to point out all the flaws in indoctrinated religion. Basing your opinions off of contradictory fiction that in milleniums old is rather rediculous imo.

There is more then one understanding of God. Do I have to pull out the five blind men and the elephant again? I will, don't make me. 😱

I'm making you. Just because I have no f-ing idea what your talking about :?