Hulk Vs. Storm [Deathmatch with a catch]

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Why wouldn't a perfectly healthy brain have perfectly healthy brainwaves, GS? 🤨

An opinion is all that it is. It isn't backed up by any facts.

The attack to his brain waves caused his bodily functions to stop. The brainwaves were the key. How would his healing factor work if his bodily functions were shut down by a disruption to his brain activity which regulates his bodily functions. You have no evidence that shows hulk can heal brain wave activity. With a disruption to that area being the cause of the breakdown of his bodily functions. How is his healing factor going to work? Outside intervention was required.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The attack to his brain waves caused his bodily functions to stop. The brainwaves were the key. How would his healing factor work if his bodily functions were shut down by a disruption to his brain activity which regulates his bodily functions. You have no evidence that shows hulk can heal brain wave activity. With a disruption to that area being the cause of the breakdown of his bodily functions. How is his healing factor going to work? Outside intervention was required.

His brain clearly doesn't regulate his regeneration. If it did, he would have died when the Maestro broke his neck, severing the connection between his brain and his body, he would have been dead. Irreversibly dead.

I'm not going to get into the nature of the Hulk's power, but they aren't a result of his biology, or his altered physiology.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Brainwaves are electricity. That's why they can be measured with an EEG.

Can you explain why a perfectly healthy 'physical' brain wouldn't have perfectly healthy brainwaves?

Hulk has regenerated his brain in the past. And it still worked, brainwaves and all. You're placing limitations on Hulk's healing that simply aren't there.

His brain regulates bodily functions which include healing so if his brain waves are disrupted which as the comic showed lead to a breakdown of his bodily functions. How could hulk possibly have eventually healed? That doesnt make sense. Without saving his psyche and higher order operations which hi shealing is dependent on to function, hulk could hardly heal anything could he?

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
His brain regulates bodily functions which include healing so if his brain waves are disrupted which as the comic showed lead to a breakdown of his bodily functions. How could hulk possibly have eventually healed? That doesnt make sense. Without saving his psyche and higher order operations which hi shealing is dependent on to function, hulk could hardly heal anything could he?

You are going by your limited understanding of the Hulk's power. With all due respect, whether his ability to regenerate a working brain makes sense to you or not, he is able to do so.

Even in a human biological sense, cellular division (or 'healing factor',) is NOT regulated by the brain. DNA controls that process. The brain has no control over that process. Even after you die, your body's tissues remain alive until they die from lack of nutrition.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
His brain clearly doesn't regulate his regeneration. If it did, he would have died when the Maestro broke his neck, severing the connection between his brain and his body, he would have been dead. Irreversibly dead.

I'm not going to get into the nature of the Hulk's power, but they aren't a result of his biology, or his altered physiology.

Yes but theres a period of time before bodily functions cease in circumstances such as that. So that doesnt conclusively dismiss my point.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
His brain regulates bodily functions which include healing so if his brain waves are disrupted which as the comic showed lead to a breakdown of his bodily functions.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
If Hulk can heal from a damaged brain stem, how is it that he can't regenerate brainwaves? If Hulk can regrow a perfectly healthy brain, how can it be that it will not function?

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
You are going by your limited understanding of the Hulk's power. With all due respect, whether his ability to regenerate a working brain makes sense to you or not, he is able to do so.

Even in a human biological sense, cellular division (or 'healing factor',) is NOT regulated by the brain. DNA controls that process. The brain has no control over that process. Even after you die, your body's tissues remain alive until they die from lack of nutrition.

So if all bodily functions cease to be how are the cells going to get nutrition. With the heart ceasing to pump as it did how are the cells going to have sufficient nutrition to heal the hulks body?

Originally posted by wannabe
That's not correct!!!
The immune system and healing capabilities ARE NOT BRAIN REGULATED!

A brain can be perfectly healthy and nonetheless not functioning. Certain kinds of coma and brain-death work this way.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
So if all bodily functions cease to be how are the cells going to get nutrition. With the heart ceasing to pump as it did how are the cells going to have sufficient nutrition to heal the hulks body?

That's the reason why humans die. HUMANS. Even so, in humans, cellular reproduction doesn't cease as soon as blood stops flowing.

Yet again, Hulk's heart STOPPED when Maestro broke his neck. Didn't stop him from healing. The nature of Hulk's regenerative power isn't the same as Wolverine's, or anyone else's.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
That's the reason why humans die. HUMANS.

The nature of Hulk's regenerative power isn't the same as Wolverine's, or anyone else's.

So how exactly is it that Hulks healing is totally different to humans. How could he heal when his bodily functions have stopped as they did. No nutrition would have been passing around his body to fuel the healing.

Plus the problem lies with the brainwaves its so not something his healing factor could deal with. In my opinion the lightning caused a polarity disruption in his brain, depolarizing his cell membranes, which in turn, caused the electical activity to slowly cease. Hence Cables panic as he saw a small window of oppurtunity to lock on to Hulks psyche whilst Storm simultaneously helped start up his bodily functions which had begun to shutdown.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
And a coma can be recovered from. Hulk was comatose when Maestro broke his neck. He emerged from it.

But i guess we're not going anywhere using scientific knowledge about human physiology, especially since the authors do not care about it anyway when they write their stories.
They write what is convenient and story-fitting, never knowing what REAL effects the written stunts should have, especially not on a cellular or molecular level.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
So how exactly is it that Hulks healing is totally different to humans. How could he heal when his bodily functions have stopped as they did. No nutrition would have been passing around his body to fuel the healing.

Plus the problem lies with the brainwaves its so not something his healing factor could deal with. In my opinion the lightning caused a polarity disruption in his brain, depolarizing his cell membranes, which in turn, caused the electical activity to slowly cease. Hence Cables panic as he saw a small window of oppurtunity to lock on to Hulks psyche whilst Storm simultaneously helped start up his bodily functions which had begun to shutdown.

Because the Hulk is totally different from Humans.

Need I explain the nature of Hulk's power?

What you said makes absolutely no sense. Depolarizing Hulk's cell membrains (assuming that his cells are anything like a humans) means that his body's cells would have melted instantly. When has lightning ever had the effect of depolarizing phosholipids? You're reaching, GS.

You keep saying that Hulk couldn't restore brainwave functioning. He has done it before. In this case, your opinion doesn't hold much sway.

Basically, X-fans, Hulk has proven that he can regenerate from brain injuries, so the point is moot. Hulk has taken way more punishment than that, so one instance in the Onslaught Saga isn't enough to sway this battle in her favor.

Besides, Cable isn't here this time, and Hulk isn't being mind controlled.

Anyways, *thunderclap*, down goes Storm with her human level durability.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
So how exactly is it that Hulks healing is totally different to humans. How could he heal when his bodily functions have stopped as they did. No nutrition would have been passing around his body to fuel the healing.

Plus, as far as I know, Hulk's healing factor is written into his dna. It really kind of makes you wonder of Hulk is only crossing the gates of his hell with is near-immortality.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
[b]Comic. Book. Magic.

Plus, as far as I know, Hulk's healing factor is written into his dna. It really kind of makes you wonder of Hulk is only crossing the gates of his hell with is near-immortality. [/B]

Not DNA. There's a much more complex, yet simpler source of Hulk's power.

Imagination. (seriously)

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Not DNA. There's a much more complex, yet simpler source of Hulk's power.

Imagination. (seriously)

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Enter the Hulk Force?

The Hulk isn't from our reality. He's not just Bruce Banner bulked up to an enormous size. He isn't a real person. He's Bruce Banner's childhood imaginary friend. He can't die (regeneration), he can see ghosts (perception of astral projections), he would always be strong enough to protect him and his mother from his father, or anyone else who would try to hurt them (the madder Hulk gets the stronger Hulk gets.)

Gamma rays (in the Marvel Universe) have a strange, unexplainable effect on human beings. In the correct dosage, they seem to cause psychological attributes of the exposure victims to manifest on the physical plane. For instance: Samuel Sterns was a borderline retarded janitor who dreamed of being mentally superior. He gets hit with Gamma rays, and becomes the leader, who's superhuman brain can outperform any computer. Jennifer Walters was a nerdy lawyer, who always dreamed of being attractive and impressive. She gets a gamma infused blood transfusion from Bruce, and she becomes the She-Hulk. Even when the Silver Surfer wanted to clear Galactus's barrier and explore space, he absorbed the Hulk's gamma rays, and he was able to break free of the barrier.

Bruce Banner is a different case. Once Banner was exposed to the gamma radiation, his imaginary friend, who would become one of his many alter-egos, was given physical form. The Hulk is an imaginary being come to reality via gamma radiation. Since he is a product of imagination, his strength is not limited by the laws of physics. Thus his strength can theoretically supercede these laws.

The words of Stan (the man) Lee.

Wow, this really makes gamma rays sound like some kind of fairy god parent.

Especially for Jennifer's. "I wished I was HOT and gamma rays GRANTED MY WISH! GET YOURS TODAY!"

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Wow, this really makes gamma rays sound like some kind of fairy god parent.

Especially for Jennifer's. "I wished I was HOT and gamma rays GRANTED MY WISH! GET YOURS TODAY!"

😆

Everyone should try it.

Originally posted by wannabe

But i guess we're not going anywhere using scientific knowledge about human physiology, especially since the authors do not care about it anyway when they write their stories.
They write what is convenient and story-fitting, never knowing what REAL effects the written stunts should have, especially not on a cellular or molecular level.

Precisely, and for this reason, this forum is becoming a bit ridiculous.

In actuality, the most valid tool for determining outcome is what has happened (which seems to be shunned as if it is irrelevant), not an idealised scientific theory.

For example, GS stated that-

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

You cant directly apply real world thinking to comic books X. It just doent work. How do you explain the fact that Cable detected no consciousness when he probed and then with the bolt to the heart hulk was revived?

That's the material these encounters are working with. The soundness of telepathy is immutable (while being artificial), while medical fact is disputed.

The ironic thing is, that is perhaps the way it should be.

The problem is, people want to argue both ways.