Last-Gen Console Discussions (PS3, Xbox 360, Wii)

Originally posted by BackFire
I'm not sure if anyones addressed this, but for those dismissing the Revolution controller prematurely, I think they've said they're going to be making a "normal" controller as well, which hasn't been shown yet.

From what Gamespot feature has said. You can actually plug in the Gamecube's controller. So, just thinking, wouldnt it be easy for developers to use the GC controller if they want to make a game without utilizing the new controller.
Another neat thing would be if developers allowed different control schemes to play thier games. For example, allow the gamer to chose between the motion sensor, or the original scheme.

One thing I dont like about the Revolution is that it wont be as powerful as the other two, which isnt a bad thing, but it creates a problem with 3rd party support. So, if I want to play a game that is released on both PS3 and XBOX 360, it would be highly unlikely for me to play the game on the Revolution, and if it is released on it, the game wouldnt be the same.
So this pretty much sums up that I'm going to buy an XBOX 360 (cheaper than the PS3) later on this year to go with the Revolution.
It sucks, but more games for me.

Ah, I heard that Gamecube controller backwards compadability was simply a rumor. Has it been confirmed now?

That's what it says on the Gamespot's feature on the Revolution.
Under the connectivity heading in the site.
It says the Revolution will have 4 wireless (minimum)
4 GC ports
2 GC memory card ports.

It might right or wrong, but Gamespot is pretty relible so I'm thinkings its true.

That sounds very good then, I love the gamecube controller.

Me too.

Me too, except it has the crappiest D-Pad ever. The Dreamcast D-Pad is the best imo. It was so soft and responsive, i loved it.

ah huh....

Originally posted by Smasandian

One thing I dont like about the Revolution is that it wont be as powerful as the other two, which isnt a bad thing, but it creates a problem with 3rd party support. So, if I want to play a game that is released on both PS3 and XBOX 360, it would be highly unlikely for me to play the game on the Revolution, and if it is released on it, the game wouldnt be the same.
So this pretty much sums up that I'm going to buy an XBOX 360 (cheaper than the PS3) later on this year to go with the Revolution.
It sucks, but more games for me.

Some news that i heard today is that Revolution will have 20 launch titles and that only 6 of them are going to be First Party games. The rest are going to be Third Party. They know that was a major mistake with GameCube seeing how almost everything was first party on GC and nobody liked there first party games so they're making way more third party games. So i would expect that revolution would have games that are on the other 2 systems.

Secondly, I know that i said this alot already and still don't know if it's true but if Nintendo really is making Revolution games with Displacement mapping then that means that they wouldn't really NEED all the power anyways.

whats displacement mapping?

It's when you take very few polygons and put a sort of mesh around them to look like many more polygons. 10 polygons could seem like millions. That way you would need less power than the 360 and Ps3 and still have the same look and feel to them. I think Ps3 will still look better though.

Originally posted by sully_2u
Some news that i heard today is that Revolution will have 20 launch titles and that only 6 of them are going to be First Party games. The rest are going to be Third Party. They know that was a major mistake with GameCube seeing how almost everything was first party on GC and nobody liked there first party games so they're making way more third party games. So i would expect that revolution would have games that are on the other 2 systems.

Secondly, I know that i said this alot already and still don't know if it's true but if Nintendo really is making Revolution games with Displacement mapping then that means that they wouldn't really NEED all the power anyways.

They still do though.
It gives the experience of the XBOX 360, but its not the experience.
Developers will have to re-write the code to take affect of the displacement mapping, which will take alot of time. Time that publishers and developers dont have for a system that has an history of having bad thirdparty consumers.

Also, its not in High Def.

how much did your high def. tv cost you?

2800 Canadian.

Toshiba DLP, 46 inches.

Might take it back though, they'res a delay between input to the screen. Read around and seems like older consoles have the problem, and the XBOX 360 with componet cables wont have that problem.

Hopefully it works.

Ok well thats 2432 dollars in America. Now for those people who didnt have a nice High Def TV, how many do you think are going to pay for a 2400 dollar TV after they just spent 500 dollars on there video game system ( 500 dollars with a couple games added)? Personally i wouldn't want to pay 2900 dollars to play a nice looking video game when it's really about innovation rather than graphics anyway.

graphics never really swayed me either way for videogames. if a game had good graphics that'd be a bonus, but i wouldnt buy one just going on how nice the graphics look. i defnitely wouldnt pay the extra money for a high definition tv, but then again i only have a part time job so i dont really have the funds to do it anyway. im with you on this one sully.

Originally posted by sully_2u
Ok well thats 2432 dollars in America. Now for those people who didnt have a nice High Def TV, how many do you think are going to pay for a 2400 dollar TV after they just spent 500 dollars on there video game system ( 500 dollars with a couple games added)? Personally i wouldn't want to pay 2900 dollars to play a nice looking video game when it's really about innovation rather than graphics anyway.

Yeah thats why you pick up an Revolution.

All I'm saying is that the 360 will have better graphics than Nintendo.
Thats why I'm buying both;

But dude, they're other reasons to get an HD TV than just videogames.

yes i know, it will eventually become a standard to have but untill then ( or when they get cheaper ) I'll stick to standard def.

Probably in two years or so.

And they are pretty cheap now (atleast in Canada), I cant see my TV going below 1500 in the next couple of years.

How big of an improvement does it make though. I mean is it like a really big difference in the look of the game? And anyone know how big of a difference 1080i is to the 1080p.

There's a massive difference between 1080i and 460i.

I bought the XBOX in my hometown and played it at my rents house. Then brought it up to my apt with the new TV, and you notice a huge difference.
It's soo bloody clear, its incredible. I played GRAW and to see in the distance is really hard, while on my new TV and I could see in the distance really well.

The difference is comparable to what the difference is between 480i and 480p.