Last-Gen Console Discussions (PS3, Xbox 360, Wii)

Originally posted by Lana
No, actually there's a multi-quote function and making tons of multiple posts when you're within the edit limit generally just annoys everyone.

I wasn't aware of the multi-quote function.

Noone has outspoken against multiple posts by a single member (unless they're by idiot members who say okay, okay, okay, in three same posts.) in my experience. I'll edit it if there's a concern about it besides a sole person. Until then, it's just fine considering they're valid posts.

And if you think about it, if I quote everyone and put all I typed down in one single post, it'll likely be within the same length as the five seperate posts.

Or you'll do so if you're told to by me.

Are you trying to be argumentative or something?

There's nothing wrong with the posts besides it's number value. They're valid posts made to different members to refer to different statements/arguments.

There's no forum rules against multiple posts unless it's trolling.

If I say to not make multiple posts, then do not make multiple posts. The only excuse for it is if it is something that exceeds the post limit, or if more than 15 minutes has passed and you can't edit.

That's the long and short of it.

We have a multi quite function?

This is news to me.

Actually, I'm referring to Raz's Forum Rules, ya know, your Boss.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/misc.php?action=rules

There's nothing in there that refers to multiple posts that are valid, counter-argumentative/commentary to another comment/argument, AND directed to different members.

Just because you dislike multiple valid posts to different members in quote in row by the same member for whatever reason that's beholden to you does not take away from my right to do so.

You may be moderator but your job is to enforce forum rules set by Raz not your own personal preferences for Internet board etiquiette.

Saying "I'm the moderator and you have to do what I say" is just childish and not the standard a moderator should set.

In the future, I'll try to avoid to make such posts. Or until I do something else that's wrong for some reason.

Originally posted by BackFire
We have a multi quite function?

This is news to me.

Well, gee....

😱

Originally posted by Draco69
Actually, I'm referring to Raz's Forum Rules, ya know, your Boss.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/misc.php?action=rules

There's nothing in there that refers to multiple posts that are valid, counter-argumentative/commentary to another comment/argument, AND directed to different members.

Just because you dislike multiple valid posts to different members in quote in row by the same member for whatever reason that's beholden to you does not take away from my right to do so.

You may be moderator but your job is to enforce forum rules set by Raz not your own personal preferences for Internet board etiquiette.

Saying "I'm the moderator and you have to do what I say" is just childish and not the standard a moderator should set.

In the future, I'll try to avoid to make such posts. Or until I do something else that's wrong for some reason.

And the specific rules set for this forum aren't written in the KMC rules, either. Because guess what. I DO have the right to create additional rules for the forums I moderate so long as they don't contradict what's written in the KMC rules. And as there's nothing in there saying "You can multiple post" I am well within my rights to tell people to NOT multiple post. And when half the posts on a page are by the same member and half of those are all posted immediately in a row? Yes, I am going to tell them to not do that.

Here's another rule that's not written in the KMC rules but all members are expected to follow - do not argue with a mod's ruling.

Originally posted by BackFire
We have a multi quite function?

This is news to me.

😛 it's the mini-quote button to the right of the regular quote button. It's been there for a couple years now, genius.

Originally posted by Draco69
The price of CD-ROM was minimal in comparision to a DVD in the nineties. It was easy to program. Cost as much as dust to use as materials.

However, the tide quickly changed when the producer unit cost of DVDs was comparable to CD-ROM.

Same thing will likely happen with HD-DVD and/or Blu-Ray.

And I'm not talking about movies. I'm talking about using them as storage media.

I like how you used all those words to say nothing. Very good use of empty rhetoric.

But you know what's funny about DVDs? The material is the same as CDs. Really. The only difference is that DVDs use a visible beam usually red. The visible laser's shorter wavelength allows for a tighter beam, which in turn allows the pits and lands on the surface of the disc to be smaller, meaning more storage capacity.

Material cost? The same. Consumer cost? About 80 cents per disc. And unlike your numbers, mine aren't imaginary.

Originally posted by Lana
And the specific rules set for this forum aren't written in the KMC rules, either. Because guess what. I DO have the right to create additional rules for the forums I moderate so long as they don't contradict what's written in the KMC rules. And as there's nothing in there saying "You can multiple post" I am well within my rights to tell people to NOT multiple post.

And you haven't made or authorized these rules in the thread regarding this sudden "no multiple posts" in your forum rules thread.

You just suddenly decided to make it so...for me.

You could post it as a new rule in forum rule thread to better clarify these rulings for members rather than dictating them when you see it fit.

Which is done in other forums. Other moderators make forum rules to specify to specific sub-forums that is noted in their forum rules thread.

If you want to vanquish multi-posting from this forum, simply put it in the forum rule thread previously created by the past moderator.

Originally posted by Lana
Here's another rule that's not written in the KMC rules but all members are expected to follow - do not argue with a mod's ruling.

Eh, that's more of a cyber-social tenet. Moderators are perceived as legitimate authority figures. However they are not bounded by any laws to hold them accountable for their actions.

If it makes you feel any better, if she misbehaves too much she has to put out for the mod staff.

Sadly, she doesn't misbehave very often.

Lil, too.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
I like how you used all those words to say nothing. Very good use of empty rhetoric.

Okay. And why? If it's so simple and empty, what's your response? I mean, I could label your post as stupid and innane but I usually follow up with a counter-argument. Which I'm about to do.

This statement just seems prissy as it offers no counter-argument thus insinuating you don't really have one.

We see it political debates all the time. Usually from Dubya but hey.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
But you know what's funny about DVDs? The material is the same as CDs. Really. The only difference is that DVDs use a visible beam usually red. The visible laser's shorter wavelength allows for a tighter beam, which in turn allows the pits and lands on the surface of the disc to be smaller, meaning more storage capacity.

Yes. Thank you for the science session.

Blu-Rays are made of (nearly; some things are different to make it more readable) the same thing DVDs are made of. However it's just written with a different laser. Like the DVDs are.

The only major difference is the Dubris which is a protective-layer of coating put on Blu-Rays to make it extremely scratch-resistant. However I don't see this being much of a factor since CDs and DVDs have all undergone disc protection as well over the years.

Which is why I don't really understand what you're saying.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
Material cost? The same. Product cost? About 80 cents per disc. And unlike your numbers, mine aren't imaginary.

The material cost of a Blu-Ray disc and an HD-DVD disc are about the same if not a little more expensive due to the shortage of laser-beams, from Sony at least anyway.

The production cost of both formats as of now is more expensive than DVDs. For now, at least. The costs will go down (as it has in the past) and it will meet DVD production costs. Costs never stay stagnant over time.

Originally posted by Draco69
Eh, that's more of a cyber-social tenet. Moderators are perceived as legitimate authority figures. However they are not bounded by any laws to hold them accountable for their actions.

You can argue the philosophy of moderation elsewhere. As it is, she speaks the truth. Arguing a mod's decision is a bannable offence. She's made her decision, now quit arguing and stick on-topic.

Originally posted by Draco69
Okay. And why? If it's so simple and empty, what's your response? I mean, I could label your post as stupid and innane but I usually follow up with a counter-argument. Which I'm about to do.

This statement just seems prissy as it offers no counter-argument thus insinuating you don't really have one.

We see it political debates all the time. Usually from Dubya but hey.

Actually, it was a sarcastic compliment. There are plenty of politicians who would love to have the same skill in "talking without saying" that you possess.

As for the existence of a counter-argument, that could be brought into question. Since a counter-argument first of all requires an actual argument for it to be countering. But we'll go ahead and assume that yes, what you posted was a practical argument. And assuming that, it therefore follows that the body of my previous post (the part referring to the same subject as you were, AKA the comparative price of producing laserdisc-based media) would be, logically, the counterargument that you claim I lack.

Yes. Thank you for the science session.

You're quite welcome. The masses can always use a quick refresher course on the topic at hand. Especially when said refresher dispels an apparent misconception.

Blu-Rays are made of (nearly; some things are different to make it more readable) the same thing DVDs are made of. However it's just written with a different laser. Like the DVDs are.

Thank you for the return science session.

The only major difference is the Dubris which is a protective-layer of coating put on Blu-Rays to make it extremely scratch-resistant. However I don't see this being much of a factor since CDs and DVDs have all undergone disc protection as well over the years.

Which is why I don't really understand what you're saying.

Boy, I know the feeling. And since I know how uncomfortable that feeling can be, I'll attempt to clear it up for everyone:

GK: DVDs cost beans, so price is probably not an issue here.

Draco: I'm right anyway, because [some reason that no one I talked to could discern].

GK: I shall clarify the subject of actual price so that we're all on level ground.

Draco: I shall snap at you because I'm assuming you were trying to insult me, then follow with [more words that I'm sure have a point, otherwise they aren't necessary].

Please note, of course, that this is my understanding of the situation, and therefore my interpretation of your posts may be different from yours.

The material cost of a Blu-Ray disc and an HD-DVD disc are about the same if not a little more expensive due to the shortage of laser-beams, from Sony at least anyway.

The production cost of both formats as of now is more expensive than DVDs. For now, at least. The costs will go down (as it has in the past) and it will meet DVD production costs. Costs never stay stagnant over time.

The consumer cost of a single blank Blu-Ray disc is about $20, just so we're on level ground with our price comparisons. And so that company rivalries wouldn't get in the way, both product prices are from the same company (Phillips). Of course, that rather dramatic difference in price is most likely due to Blu-Ray being relatively new, leading the manufacturing company to be unsure as to its viability. And as you said, if Blu-Ray takes on well enough, the consumer prices will go down to something probably 150% that of DVD.

[QUOTE=8540719]Originally posted by Draco69
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so...um i havent been here a while....um are we still talking next-gen or what?

Originally posted by Ushgarak
You've been on a thin edge for a long time. If you make a comment like that again, implying you are somehow above the mods, you are out of here.

Don't argue. That's just how it is. Live with it.

SO IM ****ING GETTIN A BANNED FOR MY COMMENTS???

i Knew it! you mods are bias like shit!!!!!!

why dont you let us post our comments! sto p beeing bias!

Originally posted by Lana
And the specific rules set for this forum aren't written in the KMC rules, either. Because guess what. I DO have the right to create additional rules for the forums I moderate so long as they don't contradict what's written in the KMC rules. And as there's nothing in there saying "You can multiple post" I am well within my rights to tell people to NOT multiple post. And when half the posts on a page are by the same member and half of those are all posted immediately in a row? Yes, I am going to tell them to not do that.

Here's another rule that's not written in the KMC rules but all members are expected to follow - do not argue with a mod's ruling.

same goes for you. draco is doing nothin wrong and youre pickin on him. thats BULLSHIT

i got that off my system and now Im goin to be ontopic. Kojima sayit clear the game is too big and too many feature will be on teh game. that means this game is lookin very good. the details will show it. its a good thing because this is a exclusive for the ps3.

Originally posted by grim92
SO IM ****ING GETTIN A BANNED FOR MY COMMENTS???

i Knew it! you mods are bias like shit!!!!!!

why dont you let us post our comments! sto p beeing bias!

same goes for you. draco is doing nothin wrong and youre pickin on him. thats BULLSHIT

i got that off my system and now Im goin to be ontopic. Kojima sayit clear the game is too big and too many feature will be on teh game. that means this game is lookin very good. the details will show it. its a good thing because this is a exclusive for the ps3.

You need to watch yourself and carefully. You are on VERY thin ice due to your past behaviour - I would liken it to trying to ice skate in 60 degree March weather. You have had chance after chance but anytime anyone dares say anything you don't like, even if it had nothing to do with you, you go on the warpath, claiming it's bias against you and go off bashing mods.

This is how it goes. The mods set the rules. The mods make the decisions. The members follow these rules and heed these decisions, or they leave. End of story. Moderator decisions are final.

And if I tell someone to use the edit button instead of spamming the thread with multiple posts and they choose to argue? Then they ARE doing something wrong.

Deal with it, or you will be gone for good VERY soon.

You can consider this a warning; whether or not that warning means a permanent ban will ultimately be up to the global mods.

Yes it does. He's had his warning and two previous bans for such behaviour. Bye.

Originally posted by grim92
SO IM ****ING GETTIN A BANNED FOR MY COMMENTS???

i Knew it! you mods are bias like shit!!!!!!

why dont you let us post our comments! sto p beeing bias!

same goes for you. draco is doing nothin wrong and youre pickin on him. thats BULLSHIT

i got that off my system and now Im goin to be ontopic. Kojima sayit clear the game is too big and too many feature will be on teh game. that means this game is lookin very good. the details will show it. its a good thing because this is a exclusive for the ps3.

😂

Silly Monkey... not everything you say must be accepted by everyone as the all-correct answer.