Last-Gen Console Discussions (PS3, Xbox 360, Wii)

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Originally posted by Smasandian
I understand the 20GB being let go. It make sense.

But this is way to much. Watching the 1UP show, and they're all talking about how Sony did really well during its press conference on making themselves seem more human compared to before.

The funny thing is that the none of the 1UP guys said anything about this. This shows that Sony are assholes.

"Sony dropped the price of the PS3.....but it only affects the 60GB version, but guess what? We wont be making them anymore after July, but dont worry we have alot in stock to meet the demands of consumers who want the price drop, but afterwards, your shit out of luck because we're only selling an 80GB one" That sure sounds like old typical Sony bullshit.

I agree. I believed Sony was taking a step in the right direction...and then I found out about the pricedrop being a half truth. I'm really disgusted with Sony.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
I agree. I believed Sony was taking a step in the right direction...and then I found out about the pricedrop being a half truth. I'm really disgusted with Sony.

Sony is just being ridiculous now, and the rumors of the 40 GB $399 Ps3 with NO Backwards compatibility at all is even more ridiculous. Sony is ****in up worse than ever before this generation.

you might as well get the body bags cause sony is dead after this shit.

Originally posted by JToTheP
Sony is just being ridiculous now, and the rumors of the 40 GB $399 Ps3 with NO Backwards compatibility at all is even more ridiculous. Sony is ****in up worse than ever before this generation.

how can it have no BC if its going to be done through software emulation now?

Originally posted by OB1-adobe
how can it have no BC if its going to be done through software emulation now?

Those are rumors from Game Informer, and the 80 GB that's suppose to be out in August won't allow the firmware update for some reason.

[B]PS3 vs. Xbox 360 vs. Wii: The Current Breakdown[/B]

The battle for your free time is well underway -- here's how the fight between the three major consoles is playing out.

By YVG Staff

Now that the annual video games trade show E3 is over and done with, the state of the console market is a lot easier to predict. In short, the PS3, Xbox 360, and Wii are all hitting their stride and demonstrating outstanding lineups. No matter which machine you favor, you're going to be torn between decisions. But for once, it's easy for us to be optimistic about the future of all three major platforms. It's looking to be an epic year indeed -- even for the PS3.

Trimming $100 off the $599 price of the PlayStation 3 was starting to look like Sony's first smart move this generation, but we really should have known better. After a flurry of mixed messages and rumors towards the end of E3 2007, details emerged that the price cut was more of a discount on end-of-line stock, and will run out within a few months. One step forward, one step back.

Sense isn't something that's been in ample supply with the PlayStation 3's marketing campaign thus far. That's a shame, because E3 saw the machine's upcoming game selection really start to impress. Sony dished up exactly what we were hoping to see -- a catalog of impressive, original, and tantalizing titles that, for the first time, really make the machine look like a good deal. LittleBigPlanet, Killzone 2 (for real this time), and Infamous all showed well, and the PS3 is also set to receive cross-platform sure-fire hits, Madden 08 and Grand Theft Auto IV.

Meanwhile, Microsoft's games division could be forgiven for looking a little smug. Unusually, the company chose to focus its E3 presentation almost entirely on games coming out in the next six months rather than showing off flashy pre-rendered demos of games that could be years away. Given the lineup the 360 has to look forward to over the next six months, their confidence looks to be justified.

Chief among the holiday big hitters for the Xbox is, you guessed it, Halo 3. Can there really be any doubt that this huge first-person shooter is all set to post record-breaking sales, both for the game itself and for Xbox 360 hardware? It's lining up to be another good year for the machine, and for Microsoft's bottom line.

Backing Halo 3 is a strong selection of exclusives like the fantastic-looking Mass Effect. Of course, it's sharing a number of big releases with the PS3, like Grand Theft Auto IV and Assassin's Creed -- and the 360's decidedly slimmer price tag will make the machine look like a better buy for those looking to enter the next-gen market. Lest we forget, when the 60 GB bargains are gone, it'll once again be possible to pick up an Xbox 360 and a Wii for less than the price of a PS3.

Assuming you can actually find a Wii, that is. If you've tried looking for one lately, you'll know Nintendo's budget-priced and innovative machine is still flying off the shelves. Reaching out to those traditionally untouched by video game marketing is undoubtedly paying off for the company. How many Wiis would have sold if Nintendo had been able to manufacture them fast enough to keep up with demand, we wonder? As Wii Fit demonstrates, this initial success is just the start, and if Nintendo can really deliver on the vast mainstream appeal of that title, you're still not going to find Wiis on shelves any time soon.

Somewhat ironically, hardcore Nintendo fans are starting to wonder about the direction of the system. Recent Wii releases have tended to favor minigames and family-friendly hijinks in preference to the deep and multi-layered experiences that characterize the company's classic franchises. That's all about to change this year, though, with the return of three key Nintendo series: Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Brothers Brawl, and Metroid Prime 3: Corruption. All are looking superb, and all will be out before 2008 rolls around.

But which console should you buy? If you positively must be playing right now, the choice is really between the Wii and Xbox 360. Nintendo's kit is perfect for parties and family-friendly fun; the Xbox has its share of these types of games, too, but its specialty is satisfying gamers craving the high-end and hardcore. But if you're more of a forward-thinking type, now is undoubtedly a good time to snag a bargain PS3 and wait for those awesome exclusives to start rolling in. Whichever you choose, you won't lose out.

THE BREAKDOWN

Sony PlayStation 3

Released: Nov 2006

Price: $499

Hardware:
* Blu-Ray optical drive
* 60 GB hard drive
* Memory card reader
* Wireless network support
* Tilt-sensitive wireless controllers

Get it?
* Best high-def support
* Tantalizing exclusives

Forget it?
* Most expensive
* Current software library still limited

Top 2007 PS3 Exclusives:
* Heavenly Sword
* Ratchet and Clank Future
* Haze
* Lair

In a sentence: We're withholding judgment on the price cut until its long term status is clear, but the PS3 is looking more and more desirable by the day.

Microsoft Xbox 360

Released: Nov 2005

Price: $299 (Core), $399 (Pro), $479 (Elite)

Hardware:
* Varies with package.
* Optional 20 GB, 120 GB hard drives
* Optional HD-DVD drive for high-def movies
* Optional wireless controllers
* Optional wi-fi networking

Get it?
* Superb online functions
* Broadest software selection
* Strong hardware capabilities

Forget it?
* Lacks genuinely original software titles

Top 2007 X360 Exclusives:
* Halo 3
* Project Gotham 4
* Mass Effect
* Eternal Sonata

In a sentence: The Xbox 360 is really showing its maturity this year, bringing a nigh-unbeatable lineup of promising games to holiday shoppers.

Nintendo Wii

Released: Nov 2006

Price: $249

Hardware:
* Motion sensitive controllers
* Wi-fi networking
* SD card reader for photos and saves
* Gamecube controller ports

Get it?
* Original software library
* Classic Nintendo franchises, past and present
* Unique control method irresistible to non-gamers
* Strong multiplayer and family library

Forget it?
* Inferior graphics and sound
* Misses out on most big cross-platform releases
* Full-featured online games still a pipedream

Top 2007 Wii Exclusives:
* Super Smash Bros. Brawl
* Metroid Prime 3
* Super Mario Galaxy
* Nights: Journey of Dreams

In a sentence: The only place to get that unique Nintendo experience, the Wii is poised to captivate even more households this year.

I thought this was an interesting right up.

I really dont understand how they can say that the PS3 has tantalizing exclusives for the PS3, but only the XBOX 360 lacks original software.

What exclusives is he/she talking about?

FFXIII of course. And God of War 3 and MGS4, for those that care about those franchises.

I still don't have any desire for a PS3, sorry.

Originally posted by Smasandian
I really dont understand how they can say that the PS3 has tantalizing exclusives for the PS3, but only the XBOX 360 lacks original software.

What exclusives is he/she talking about?

I only see 2 great exclusives for PS3, God of War and Metal Gear, and of those I only have a mild interest in MGS.

Xbox has some great exclusives, Halo of course, but also games like Mass Effect, Splinter Cell, Halo Wars. Not to mention exlcusive games that have already come out like Forza, Gears, and Capcom's games.

I read the latest PSM magazine yesterday, and even they were saying that the most perfect PS3 controller would be the 360 Controller with a Wii-mote attached.

Originally posted by Smasandian
I really dont understand how they can say that the PS3 has tantalizing exclusives for the PS3, but only the XBOX 360 lacks original software.

What exclusives is he/she talking about?

Basically IMHO why I don't like MS that much. They lack orignial everything.

Nintendo and Sony seemed to be more Imaginative, innovative, and always trying give new things to people.

MS waits till shits popular and then goes out with Bill's check book and ask "How much?"

Watching peter moore on their E3 press conference he goes on and on about how great that we have halo and GTA because they were the top selling games of last generation, and we have them both this fall.

They're still great games, but Halo I think already had its peak in intrest, and GTA will become more innovative and stay king of its genre, but its general image has become desensitized by gamers since bloody criminal games are "ten for twelve cents" now.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
FFXIII of course. And God of War 3 and MGS4, for those that care about those franchises.

I still don't have any desire for a PS3, sorry.

And that's orginal hahaha? Combine the numbers of each sequel and you get 20. Real orginal. haha.

Adobe, Sony is just as bad as MS when it comes down to original titles. MGS4, Final Fantasy, God Of War 3, and others. . I think 360 has better exclusives than the PS3 and when it comes to originality, well, I'm always in the opinion that originality doesnt really exist anymore outside a few games. Most games nowadays, especially PS3 games have a new setting or story but are generally the same game as any other game.

The article states Heavenly Sword, Lair, Haze and Ratchet. Well, Haze is just another shooter, Liar looks good but according to some reports its basically Rogue Squadron with dragons and Sword is just another button masher with a more complex combo's.

Little Big Planet on the other, well thats an original title.

Got a question for the X-box users, I just got myself a 360 recently (officially a Wii60 player now) and encountered something weird. I tried logging into my MSN Messenger through the 360 and everything worked fine, except for the fact that I then get the nick I used a month ago and not the one I have now, is there a way to change my Messenger nick on X-box?

Originally posted by Smasandian
And that's orginal hahaha? Combine the numbers of each sequel and you get 20. Real orginal. haha.

Adobe, Sony is just as bad as MS when it comes down to original titles. MGS4, Final Fantasy, God Of War 3, and others. . I think 360 has better exclusives than the PS3 and when it comes to originality, well, I'm always in the opinion that originality doesnt really exist anymore outside a few games. Most games nowadays, especially PS3 games have a new setting or story but are generally the same game as any other game.

The article states Heavenly Sword, Lair, Haze and Ratchet. Well, Haze is just another shooter, Liar looks good but according to some reports its basically Rogue Squadron with dragons and Sword is just another button masher with a more complex combo's.

Little Big Planet on the other, well thats an original title.

That is a misreading of the meaning of the word 'original' in this context. They are not using it in the sense of 'innovative'.

What they mean is that the Xbox doesn't really have any decent franchises that originate from it, like FF does on Playstation or Mario on Nintendo. It is certainly a notable lack in the MS line up.

So that's that explained.

FF did not originate in the Playstation.

And the Xbox 360 has it's fair share of franchises coming it's way. Mass Effect looks absolutely amazing. Gears of War, Dead Rising originated on 360 and knowing Capcom it won't resist milking the crap out of it. Lost Planet...HALO, KOTOR, Too Human...The 360 does have more original stuff IMO, but whatever makes you sleep well at night.

Final fantasy I think came out on the NES or SNES. I think FF3 came out before 1 did if I can remember...I was like 6 or something when it first came out.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Final fantasy I think came out on the NES or SNES. I think FF3 came out before 1 did if I can remember...I was like 6 or something when it first came out.

FF originated on the NES and 1 did not come out before 3 and I have no idea where you got that notion from. It's called FF1 for a reason. As they did not release all of them outside of Japan, though, some of them got re-numbered.

He was probably confused by FF3(US) being FF6 in japan.

EDIT.

I just saw on Gametrailers that Silent Hill 5 is coming to 360, schweeeeeet. 😛