Originally posted by PVS
well, to be fair, i dont think ps2 is going to suck....i just think it will flop because
who the hell wants to spend 600$ on a system with nothing new to offer?the thing better be able to blow me for that kind of money.
😂
Chances are that by buying the PS3, you will be paying the SONY heads a blow for the rest of their lives.
Originally posted by PVS
it turned out to be my favorite. xbox live pulled them from the fire imho,
and will continue to be their strongest selling point, and rightfully so since it rules.
I feel the same way. 🙂
On another note, I don't think it's possible to predict who will lead in the console race this generation.
Let's admit it, Sony shot themselves in the foot. $600 just for the freakin console? And don't give me the BS about "oh, well, get the $500 one." Anybody who is willing to spend $500 and up on a video game console is going to know what the the $500 version is missing, and how badly they'll get ripped off. If the theory is right that success for video game companies lies in the sales for casual gamers, believe it: Sony's lost.
Xbox 360: So far, pretty solid, I'd say. They've got a good line-up already, and some great games coming out. (Prey, Gears of War, Halo 3, etc.), however, I feel they still don't have the name recognition they need to persuade casual gamers who, all they had last year was a PS2, and now are deciding what they want for this year. However, the 360 is going to benefit more from Sony's high price than Nintendo, no doubt. Any Sony fan that is turned off by the $600 is going to turn to Microsoft first.
The Wii has come out strong this year. With games like Super Smash Bros. 3, Super Mario Galaxy, and Legend of Zelda, it's obvious that their fanbase is going to be immediately drawn in. With other games like Red Steel, Excite Truck, and Project HAMMER, I think we'll have to wait and see if the control scheme flies. Not to mention the fact that the Wii will have a low price, much lower than PS3 and lower than the 360.
Outside of their fanbase, though, I feel they have a negative reputation, especially of the people who are kind-of into video games and kind-of not. I have quite a few friends like this: they're not much into video games, but with Nintendo's failing Gamecube, they won't want to buy a Wii. This is where PS3's high price comes into play. Gamers like this, ones that won't go near a Wii because they know what the Gamecube did, are going to look at a PS3, obviously say it's too high, and then turn to the 360.
Overall, I think Sony's at the largest disadvantage; it's only lessened slightly because of the fanbase it's developed. Nintendo and Microsoft are currently looking pretty solid, in my opinion.
We'll just have to wait to see where the future takes us.
Well in Canada, lets do the math.
PS3 is going to be $599. Consoles in Canada, usually sell for another hundred bucks due to the conversion (even if the Canadian dollar is high).
So XBOX sold for $499, (399 in the States). So, PS3 will probably be $699 in Canada.
If I bought it in Ottawa, ill be paying $803 for just the console (TAX). WTF is that. Who can afford that?
I think Sony is going to see their dominate position grow smaller. If it comes out during the Christmas, they're forgetting that the XBOX will have Gears Of Wars (which looks amazing), Too Human, and a couple of other huge games. For an casual gamer, (the biggest market), they're going to go for the cheaper product that has the killer apps already over the PS3.
PS3 also doesnt have the exclusive rights to GTA 4, RE5, and other killer apps that always presueded people to get an PS.
Remember what happened to the XBOX when it got released. The PS2 was out for an year, and alot of killer apps came out that made the XBOX launch falter a bit. What game was that? Oh yeah, GTA 3.
Sony tried to showcase how big thier balls are (more tech), then actually trying to create a console that will sell.
But only time will tell, and the Blu Ray disc isnt going to move the PS3, like it happened with the DVD player.
Originally posted by H. S. 6
I feel the same way. 🙂On another note, I don't think it's possible to predict who will lead in the console race this generation.
Let's admit it, Sony shot themselves in the foot. $600 just for the freakin console? And don't give me the BS about "oh, well, get the $500 one." Anybody who is willing to spend $500 and up on a video game console is going to know what the the $500 version is missing, and how badly they'll get ripped off. If the theory is right that success for video game companies lies in the sales for casual gamers, believe it: Sony's lost.
Xbox 360: So far, pretty solid, I'd say. They've got a good line-up already, and some great games coming out. (Prey, Gears of War, Halo 3, etc.), however, I feel they still don't have the name recognition they need to persuade casual gamers who, all they had last year was a PS2, and now are deciding what they want for this year. However, the 360 is going to benefit more from Sony's high price than Nintendo, no doubt. Any Sony fan that is turned off by the $600 is going to turn to Microsoft first.
The Wii has come out strong this year. With games like Super Smash Bros. 3, Super Mario Galaxy, and Legend of Zelda, it's obvious that their fanbase is going to be immediately drawn in. With other games like Red Steel, Excite Truck, and Project HAMMER, I think we'll have to wait and see if the control scheme flies. Not to mention the fact that the Wii will have a low price, much lower than PS3 and lower than the 360.
Outside of their fanbase, though, I feel they have a negative reputation, especially of the people who are kind-of into video games and kind-of not. I have quite a few friends like this: they're not much into video games, but with Nintendo's failing Gamecube, they won't want to buy a Wii. This is where PS3's high price comes into play. Gamers like this, ones that won't go near a Wii because they know what the Gamecube did, are going to look at a PS3, obviously say it's too high, and then turn to the 360.
Overall, I think Sony's at the largest disadvantage; it's only lessened slightly because of the fanbase it's developed. Nintendo and Microsoft are currently looking pretty solid, in my opinion.
We'll just have to wait to see where the future takes us.
Good points and I agree with you on this. But a disadvantage of 360 is that they wont have the new technology of the controller-motion, however they will probably come out with one but not anytime soon.
SONY simply put themselves at a disadvantage by having a high price tag. They didnt need to create a brand new CPU or especially go with Blu Ray DVDs because theres no fan base for it. Theres no difference between HD-DVD or Blu Ray DVD other than space capacity.
No, Ritoshi. I don't own a 360. I've seen it in action and I laugh everytime I think about how much the person paid for it. That's another console that made bigger promises than it could fulfill. Before everyone says "It's not been out long", these promises were supposed to be release fulfillments.
Eg: Old games playable. Turned out to be false.
Originally posted by Smasandian
How is it a flop?
How is it NOT? It took Xbox Live, some many years later, to even salvage some fans. Even then it was with a majority of old games or rehashed sequels.
I can't think of one good game that was exclusive to it. Halo maybe, but that was overrated.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
No, Ritoshi. I don't own a 360. I've seen it in action and I laugh everytime I think about how much the person paid for it. That's another console that made bigger promises than it could fulfill. Before everyone says "It's not been out long", these promises were supposed to be release fulfillments.Eg: Old games playable. Turned out to be false.
How is it NOT? It took Xbox Live, some many years later, to even salvage some fans. Even then it was with a majority of old games or rehashed sequels.
I can't think of one good game that was exclusive to it. Halo maybe, but that was overrated.
-AC
What games do you like to play?
I'm calling it now that MS will win the console war this generation. A lot of people will just be buying a system to they can play the GTA4 games, and they'll just buy the cheaper system to play it on. Before, when it was a Sony day one exclusive people would have been forced to buy the PS3, now that the 360 will also have it on day one, that's going to hurt sony a lot, take away a lot of buyers and give the 360 those buyers.
Sony is catering too much to the hardcore audience, no casual gamers, who Sony always appealed to before, will pay 600 bucks for a system. Add to that that Sony has one real exclusive (FFXIII, Metal Gear Solid 4 will probably eventually come out for the 360, like the other Metal Gear games have for the Xbox) and a very underwhelming launch day selection, plus the 360 will probably have a price drop long before the PS3, it just doesn't look good for Sony.
Originally posted by BackFire
I'm calling it now that MS will win the console war this generation. A lot of people will just be buying a system to they can play the GTA4 games, and they'll just buy the cheaper system to play it on. Before, when it was a Sony day one exclusive people would have been forced to buy the PS3, now that the 360 will also have it on day one, that's going to hurt sony a lot, take away a lot of buyers and give the 360 those buyers.Sony is catering too much to the hardcore audience, no casual gamers, who Sony always appealed to before, will pay 600 bucks for a system. Add to that that Sony has one real exclusive (FFXIII, Metal Gear Solid 4 will probably eventually come out for the 360, like the other Metal Gear games have for the Xbox) and a very underwhelming launch day selection, plus the 360 will probably have a price drop long before the PS3, it just doesn't look good for Sony.
Good points. 👆
I do believe Sony's in for a tough ride this generation.
Originally posted by Ritoshi
lol you forget the power of fanboys that have a Ps2 will get a 3 just for they pledged loyality to Sony.
People aren't really dedicated to sony, they're dedicated to their third party games, which microsoft is taking away from them this generation.
Fanboys aren't enough to make a system number one.
Originally posted by Ritoshi
lol you forget the power of fanboys that have a Ps2 will get a 3 just for they pledged loyality to Sony.
Yes, but remember that they are not in any way a majority. They are in fact a very small percentage of gamers.
I'll admit -- I'm rather hoping that FFXIII ends up on the 360 because with that, GTA4, and Oblivion...I'd get that system. Me, who can't stand Xbox...would get one simply because it's cheaper.
Originally posted by Lanalol if Microsoft can get lana then they can get anyone. AHH, I dn why they screwed Microsoft with it since even the DS gets the game 😐 but future FF games are being made for 360..I guess different versions or something but come on LAN!! Blue Dragon might be your new fav Rpg 😖hifty: if not then look at thePS3's 600 dollar price and their games will cost lot 😈
Yes, but remember that they are not in any way a majority. They are in fact a very small percentage of gamers.I'll admit -- I'm rather hoping that FFXIII ends up on the 360 because with that, GTA4, and Oblivion...I'd get that system. Me, who can't stand Xbox...would get one simply because it's cheaper.
Originally posted by Lana
Yes, but remember that they are not in any way a majority. They are in fact a very small percentage of gamers.I'll admit -- I'm rather hoping that FFXIII ends up on the 360 because with that, GTA4, and Oblivion...I'd get that system. Me, who can't stand Xbox...would get one simply because it's cheaper.
I turned away from NINTENDO but now it looks like I will get one because of the controller and the games that are comming out for it. Ill get 360 first tho because of Gears of War then I will get NINTENOD because I never buy a brand new console the first year because it could have defects like 360 had.
Originally posted by El_NINOWell The Gamecube didn't fail me..I mean the only reason it wasn't as good is the 3rd party but the games made by Nintendo on it was still kick ass as always.
I turned away from NINTENDO but now it looks like I will get one because of the controller and the games that are comming out for it. Ill get 360 first tho because of Gears of War then I will get NINTENOD because I never buy a brand new console the first year because it could have defects like 360 had.
I can see in the future a possible merge with MS and Nintendo. Moore seems to be giving way to many props to nintendo. I've always hated the console wars. Even worse the horrendous fanboyism that is always bonded to it.
I was one of those few gamers that started started with atari then moved to genesis and finally dreamcast (still..thinking...9-9-99) and occasionally played with the ps1. The PS2 never did appeal to me despite it's large library. The first Xbox was good but I wasn't too attach to it...until I tried the DVD. 😄
I'm getting a Wii....I just see it as irresistable...I find it more interesting than the gamecube. Not because is next gen...is just looks curious. 😉