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Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Just to put some trivial figures up for your consideration.And these figures are roughly as of this year.
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Ps1 - 102m soldPs2 - 140m sold xbox - 24m sold
Ps3 - 21m sold xbox 360 - 30m sold
Facts -- you've just gotta love it
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6215590.html
But you know what's sad in this story, M$ made a lot of money of a crappy product. That means they can get away with it... They just don't care about the customer.
When people's consoles broke down they didn't flip the finger to the company, they got another one
EDIT:
BTW, my brand new 7th XBOX 360 died out again.
**** Micro$oft and all it's shitty low quality products.
Originally posted by occultdestroyer
👆Facts -- you've just gotta love it
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6215590.html
But you know what's sad in this story, M$ made a lot of money of a crappy product. That means they can get away with it... They just don't care about the customer.
When people's consoles broke down they didn't flip the finger to the company, they got another oneEDIT:
BTW, my brand new 7th XBOX 360 died out again.
**** Micro$oft and all it's shitty low quality products.
yea but you gotta admit that both xbox live and xbox games are incompareable.
I'm getting mine repaired as we speak @ the same CEX store i got it from. (RROD). Dropped it of @ 12est. and it's due @ 2pm. about an hr..
$70 bucks
Originally posted by §P0oONY
Since when have I said that a game NEEDs good graphics to be good!? But undoubtedly the visuals of a game will be an element to how you judge it, amongst other things?
Unlike you, i've never had the opinion that a game has been hampered by poor visuals. Poor camera angles, yes. That's the point I was making. GTA san andreas had poor graphics when compared with other games...It clearly wasn't and isn't hampered by those poor graphics because it's still a better game than most that are released nowadays.
I don't rate games on their graphics at all. I rate them on how good they are to play. Hence the reason there are games on the Wii that I consider far superior to games on the more powerful consoles. Because they are just a helluva lot more fun to play. I enjoy them more thus they are better games to me.
Originally posted by occultdestroyer
👆Facts -- you've just gotta love it
EDIT:
BTW, my brand new 7th XBOX 360 died out again.
**** Micro$oft and all it's shitty low quality products.
The facts are that the Xbox is selling better.
Anyway, I've read some online article where a magazine asked its readers to tell them about their console failure rates. Xbox360 scored a 50% failure rate. Scary.
Originally posted by jaden101
Unlike you, i've never had the opinion that a game has been hampered by poor visuals. Poor camera angles, yes. That's the point I was making. GTA san andreas had poor graphics when compared with other games...It clearly wasn't and isn't hampered by those poor graphics because it's still a better game than most that are released nowadays.I don't rate games on their graphics at all. I rate them on how good they are to play. Hence the reason there are games on the Wii that I consider far superior to games on the more powerful consoles. Because they are just a helluva lot more fun to play. I enjoy them more thus they are better games to me.
yea but then you have the issue of physics. GTA4 has better physics than "S.A." does, which made the game more fun with high replay value due to the level of graphical interactivity. GTA😖A physics suck hard. (on top of it sucking as a game, to me)
but don't take it entirely to heart cause I'll admit i am a bit being bias. i thought GTA😖A was garbage. And the worst game ever made on PC. Vice City was the 2nd best GTA game w/pt.4 @ #1. It was definetely the most popular cause it was the best selling version of the series.
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
The facts are that the Xbox is selling better.Anyway, I've read some online article where a magazine asked its readers to tell them about their console failure rates. Xbox360 scored a 50% failure rate. Scary.
The 360 did get a years' headstart. It launched way before the Ps3 did. Maybe that's why.
And 50% is crazy. outta 30mi units 15mi are defective. i'm on my 2nd failed 360. And 3 of my frinds had the red ring before. One sent it to MS to get it repaired for free and the other 2 switched to Ps3.
sucks..
Instead of rating based on how they play, or graphics....why don't you rate based on the overall game.
One game might have bad graphics but good gameplay. One game could have mediocre gameplay but excellent graphics (I consider graphics as all encompassing, not just polygons but presentation, atmosphere and etc.)
One example is Twlight Princess. Great gameplay, excellent art design but that game would of been alot better if the graphics were up to snuff. It would of made it more memorable in my opinion.
Originally posted by jaden101If you look back, I said Visuals... Not graphics... Be it Cel Shading, 2D or whatever.
Unlike you, i've never had the opinion that a game has been hampered by poor visuals. Poor camera angles, yes. That's the point I was making. GTA san andreas had poor graphics when compared with other games...It clearly wasn't and isn't hampered by those poor graphics because it's still a better game than most that are released nowadays.I don't rate games on their graphics at all. I rate them on how good they are to play. Hence the reason there are games on the Wii that I consider far superior to games on the more powerful consoles. Because they are just a helluva lot more fun to play. I enjoy them more thus they are better games to me.
I've never stated that graphics are of grave importance but they undoubtedly effect the gaming experience, otherwise developers and such wouldn't have improved them over time. If a first person shooter was released today with Goldeneye graphics (without it being tongue in cheek) then you'd be like "WTF?"... You would judge it somewhat on graphics, you're lying if you say wouldn't... Now, I'm not saying a current game couldn't be good with Goldeneye graphics but the game would obviously be better with graphics from a modern day shooter.
I don't know why you're even attempting to debate this with me.
Originally posted by SmasandianThat is what I've been trying to say... Graphics are just a component on by which you rate a game. (And I don't mean literally rate the game, like numerically, just the way you feel about it.)
Instead of rating based on how they play, or graphics....why don't you rate based on the overall game.One game might have bad graphics but good gameplay. One game could have mediocre gameplay but excellent graphics (I consider graphics as all encompassing, not just polygons but presentation, atmosphere and etc.)
One example is Twlight Princess. Great gameplay, excellent art design but that game would of been alot better if the graphics were up to snuff. It would of made it more memorable in my opinion.
Originally posted by SmasandianOne example is Twlight Princess. Great gameplay, excellent art design but that game would of been alot better if the graphics were up to snuff. It would of made it more memorable in my opinion.
I thought TP was a great game but not as good as OoT...Hence I think the graphical element is a bit irrelevant. Ocarina just is a better game but it's obviously far inferiour graphically.
Originally posted by jaden101At the time of OoT release it had very good graphics though... You compare games graphically to other games of it's generation.
I thought TP was a great game but not as good as OoT...Hence I think the graphical element is a bit irrelevant. Ocarina just is a better game but it's obviously far inferiour graphically.
Originally posted by §P0oONY
At the time of OoT release it had very good graphics though... You compare games graphically to other games of it's generation.
You're missing the point...It's still a better game now than twilight princess is. It doesn't matter if it was graphically great compared with other games then because i'm not comparing it to those games...I'm comparing it with games from now and it's still better hence the reason graphics don't matter.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
The 360 did get a years' headstart. It launched way before the Ps3 did. Maybe that's why.And 50% is crazy. outta 30mi units 15mi are defective. i'm on my 2nd failed 360. And 3 of my frinds had the red ring before. One sent it to MS to get it repaired for free and the other 2 switched to Ps3.
sucks..
Actually I was talking about the sales right now, not just overall.
Well, maybe not 50% are defective out-of-the-box(or dead-on-arrival), but are prone to hardware failures if not placed in ideal conditions.