Last-Gen Console Discussions (PS3, Xbox 360, Wii)

Started by General Kaliero507 pages

Originally posted by S_D_J
and it comes in 4 colors:

black, brown and 2 shades of white flesh 😄


Actually, the glowy bulb changes colors depending on your background, so the Eye can track it more easily.

I was being facetious

😐

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That deserved a thread of its own. Care to disagree? 131

"zomgnoez, Sonies copying again!" (not pointing to anyone in particular)

Yeah...who cares. I won't be surprised if they improved on it. 313

Natal, on the other hand, isn't doing any better either

http://wii.ign.com/articles/107/1076978p1.html


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Natal, though -- the motion offering from Microsoft -- not so much. The same studio rep calls Natal a big, buggy mess. "It's sh*t," he adds, saying that it just doesn't work as promised. That it's slow and that the camera is imprecise, which he notes, is causing some major development woes.

He refers to a development conference Microsoft held not so long ago in which Peter Molyneux of Fable fame (presently, creative director at Microsoft Game Studios) took the stage and attempted to demo the publisher's much-publicized Milo Natal project. Molyneux apparently called someone from the audience to the stage and asked them to interact with the virtual boy, but it didn't go to plan. Natal's camera failed to see the person accurately because he was wearing a black trench coat. After some fiddling, he was asked to remove his trench coat and -- whoops -- wore a black shirt underneath. When it still didn't work, he was invited to take his seat again.

Next, Molyneux said that Milo could interact with illustrations drawn to paper and scanned by the camera. He asked the audience for suggestions. "You could see him cocking his head and listening for the right key words, and then finally he heard something the game would recognize," my development source explains. It was a cat. So he invited someone from the audience to ascend the steps to the stage and illustrate the feline on paper. When Natal attempted to scan the horribly scribbled drawing, it instead picked up the Abercrombie & Fitch logo on the person's sweater.

I laugh at this but try to play devil's advocate. Okay, I say, so it's obvious you're not a fan, but somebody must be getting this thing to work well or it wouldn't be on the slate to ship this year. I ask if he knows of any other studios struggling with Natal.

"How about Rare and Lionhead? They're just going to try to make launch and then they're going to patch everything later," he says, laughing.

I'm very interested in the platform, but I haven't entrenched myself in Natal development. Later, when I bump into a colleague, I ask them if they have heard any behind-the-scenes rumblings about development trouble with Microsoft's casual entry device. He turns to me and says that yes, he has -- that studios are telling him they're struggling to get it working.

It's anecdotal and unproven and I know from experience that it's never so black and white. The fact of the matter is, the Wii remote shipped with so many problems that Nintendo was forced to release an upgrade device that even needs constant recalibration. And Wii MotionPlus? Word on the street is that the heat from your hands de-calibrates the sensor. It's still not perfect by any means, but it's workable, and I think that by the time Natal ships, it will be workable too, even if developers have to kill themselves getting it there. Lest we not forget that there are some amazing games for Wii and whether by ingenuity or simple trickery, the motion controls sometimes feel fantastic.

What I do find very telling about both some of these public unveilings and secret murmurings, however, is just how difficult it seems to be to nail motion controls. People love to shrug off Nintendo's work. Hell, I've done it. But for all the primitive graphics surrounding the Wii Sports experience, there's some pretty fancy handiwork powering the gameplay controls -- and I think Microsoft and Sony are only now discovering just how fancy it really is.

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Takeaways so far: Sony has made a dildo-controller that feels like a gimped Wii remote. Natal sucks. And Wii 2 is in no rush. At least, that's how it goes in pure black and white and if you believe everything you hear at this year's Game Developers Conference. Of course, if you do, then maybe you'll also believe that GameCube's fill rate is much better than Xbox's and therefore Nintendo's hardware is superior. Right?

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Wii is too awesome for copycats.

I love how blatent a copy it is... Good luck to them, so long as they don't dumb down and produce millions of shitty casual games I'll be happy.

The funny thing is that I hear different reports about Natal. Some say it sucks, some say it doesn't.

It probably does. It must be ****ing hard to create a new controller for a piece of kit already on the market. One that is so drastically different anyway.

They should have called it the PS3mote!

Lol what a dumb name...playstation move is sooooo much better.

Xbox 360 accessories like this:

Is the only way to open that, to cut around it with scissors? Or is there a way I can open it up without actually having to cut it up? Perhaps by splitting both sides of the package? But is that possible, or do you have to cut up the box?

Thanks.

Originally posted by FWahMaN
Xbox 360 accessories like this:

Is the only way to open that, to cut around it with scissors? Or is there a way I can open it up without actually having to cut it up? Perhaps by splitting both sides of the package? But is that possible, or do you have to cut up the box?

Thanks.

The only way to open that properly is with an industrial laser.

FWAH! 😠 *covers up hand cuts from scissors*

Honestly, why do they make stuff like that a b*tch to get in to?!

Just to annoy you.

😆

use a really sharp blade, if you're careful enough you won't messed the package so much and it won't be as apparent that you cut through it.

It beats any scissor, cuz you just cut around one side, instead of cutting through both glued sides

I always use razor blades to open packages like that. Clean cuts FTW.

Originally posted by Peach
Just to annoy you.
Really? The consoles are way more expensive but you just have to open them as easily as lifting a lid off...these aren't even easily cuttable by scissors. You need big ass scissors for those, or what SDJ said.

What are those razors called that you can slide up and down? Are those the ones you guys are talking about?

Also the box says "cut along here" with a picture of scissors...so I guess that's what I'm supposed to use?

Anyway I'm more interested in the razors..I still haven't cut up my hdmi cable case...once I opened up a package like that, and scratched the item inside. 🙁 the stupid focks.

I always just use a pair of kitchen scissors, or a boxcutter/razor blade before I leave work, to cut them open. Not a big deal, pretty easy to do, and it's not hard to figure out where to cut as to not cut the actual product.

you can use razor blades (as LanceWindu told you), but if you're not careful enough you could end up cutting yourself, a lot worse than with a scissor.

A utility knife (or box cutter) is what you'll want use:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Box_cutter

those are the one that slide up and down and are safe to use... and cheap.

I personally use a Swiss Army knife... but that's just cuz I own one 🙄

Looks dangerous 🙁. I'll just use schoolbox scissors.

Try a box cutter, those are safe enough 😉