Longpig takes this.
How?
Let me explain.
Doc Shocktopus can jam brain synapses, create electrical fields that will reduce to ashes upon contact flesh and bones, plus add in the speed he possess, the tentacles and the armor, he's a real threat.Consider also he can amp his strenght using electricity and also fly and levitate, Grailnighter got great powersets too, but Shock is protected from an armor, which is not organic matter and he got the chance to attack a vast area with Electro's powers, not to mention the tentacles are insulated, so he could attack Grail meanwhile he's blasting him, ending quickly the match.Teleporting away is a good option, but Shock can keep up an electrical field to protect himself, teleporting in close quarter will result into the death of Grailnighter or a serious damage to his persona.Electro claimed he could level a neighbourhood with his power, and considering he's the one who wrecked part of the RAFT, S.H.I.E.L.D.'s prison for supervillains, it's a feat he's capable of.
When the fight begins, what prevents Shocktopus to cut lose and emit an omnidirectional electrical blast that will obliterate anything in the range, even if Grailnighter teleport safe, he got to came back to fight, and Shock could just wait for him and using the electrical powers to slow him down and finish him with blades and tentacles.
Originally posted by K3VIL
Doc Shocktopus can jam brain synapses, create electrical fields that will reduce to ashes upon contact flesh and bones
Originally posted by K3VIL
plus add in the speed he possess, the tentacles and the armor, he's a real threat.
Originally posted by K3VIL
Consider also he can amp his strenght using electricity and also fly and levitate,
Originally posted by K3VIL
Grailnighter got great powersets too, but Shock is protected from an armor, which is not organic matter
Originally posted by K3VIL
and he got the chance to attack a vast area with Electro's powers, not to mention the tentacles are insulated, so he could attack Grail meanwhile he's blasting him, ending quickly the match.
Originally posted by K3VIL
Electro claimed he could level a neighbourhood with his power, and considering he's the one who wrecked part of the RAFT, S.H.I.E.L.D.'s prison for supervillains, it's a feat he's capable of.
Originally posted by K3VIL
When the fight begins, what prevents Shocktopus to cut lose and emit an omnidirectional electrical blast that will obliterate anything in the range
Originally posted by K3VIL
even if Grailnighter teleport safe, he got to came back to fight, and Shock could just wait for him and using the electrical powers to slow him down and finish him with blades and tentacles.
Class ten? Shocktopus is between 20-30ton range, plenty enough strength to use his adamantium blades to cut through anything...so trying to h2h me is suicide for anyone, especially you.
No matter how Khell tries to confuse and or spin facts, it's clear that his only choice is to try and avoid me the entire time while blocking lightspeed attacks.
The fact remains I have a higher durability and can break through all his defenses and kill him with one shot.
The only debate so far is can I get that one shot?
Easily.
The arms have A.I, they are the same arms Ock had, she stole them from him. When she and the two spidermen fought, Scarlet tried to attack from behind and the arms attacked.
Originally posted by long pig
Class ten? Shocktopus is between 20-30ton range, plenty enough strength to use his adamantium blades to cut through anything...so trying to h2h me is suicide for anyone, especially you.
I have scans of the symbiote surviving a mountain-destroying explosion. I have scan that prove I can dodge anything. I have scans proving I have powerful enough energy blasts to punch open his armor.
What, you're seriously saying you can swipe through a shield that takes class 100 blows with ease and a symbiote that can survive a mountin blowing up in one hit? Not a chance.
There is nothing you have that will come CLOSE to touching me.
What, you're seriously saying you can swipe through a shield that takes class 100 blows with ease and a symbiote that can survive a mountin blowing up in one hit?
Super sharp Adamantium is a hell of a thing....especially backed by multi-ton strength & insane speed. It cuts through anything.
God damnit. My computer has been having the shits all night. I'm not sure what's wrong with it, so I may be back tomorrow night or I may not be back for a few days. Good luck LP. I don't see myself making a huge comeback when I'm not even here, but I'm not forfeiting either. I've posted all the scans that are relevant, made all the arguments I can. I'll just ask potential voters to look at the arguments and scans carefully. Let the votes fall where they may.
Originally posted by long pig
With my adamanium blades or mentally controlled adamantium coils? Yes to both.Super sharp Adamantium is a hell of a thing....especially backed by multi-ton strength & insane speed. It cuts through anything.
hmm, this is close. to me it boils down to the question of whether shock's shields will hold up. given what i've seen of it, i believe it would -- at least for a while. i'm still not entirely sure 'nighter COULD isolate the electrical impulses in shock's brain from the charges that would be running rampant all around him. then there's the question of the shield's interference. could that further impair his reading of shock's mind? then, to, even allowing he can read his mind, AND allowing he can dodge or port away from a couple attacks, multiple attacks from all over plus freek's speed and multiple attacking arms just seems to me to say shock would be on the offensive all the time and khell would be trying to slip in attacks that wouldn't be powerful enough QUICKLY enough.
i think it would likely be a fairly long (no pun intended!! 😄) battle, with nighter 'porting and dodging and striking but not getting through in time before shock scores the shot he needs to end it. i know khell has good shields, but the thought of something like wolvie's claws on the end of doc ock's tentacles is insane.
sorry khell. great effort and great amalgam, but unless you can explain away some of my reservations REALLY well, my vote is for piggy . . .
well done, both of you.clapping
To clarify, Khell's not trying to read Shocktopus's mind. He's seeing the electricity around Shoucktopus, so as to predict when Shock is going to try to blast him. Specifically seeing his brain has nothing to do with it. The thing with Jenny was to prove that he won't be distracted or blinded if LP decides to suddenly draw a whole bunch of energy.
I stick with Khell, for speculation on LP's shields, as well as the better support he's brought up for each of his arguments. If everything said were accepted as truth, I STILL think it would be really really close.
See, the point is he sees all the electricity around Shocktopus, not specifically in his brain. When the energy starts building, he'll know that Shock is about to blast him. The brain example was to show that he can see electricity in general. He's using seeing electricity as a way for him to dodge blasts more easily.