Mormons

Originally posted by Fade and Remain
How come there are no Latter Day Saint "temples" in lower class, lower-middle class, hell even the ghetto neighborhoods?? People in the ghetto need a little cult lovin too sly . Why are all the "members" rich white people? Why do you HAVE to put in "10% tithes" every month or you get no entrance into the temple?? Marketing strategy maybe??

Most coming of age Mormons do "missions," as in missionary work, but why don't they actually help people and be missionaries, not just spread their propaganda around? Why not rebuild orphanages, help the needy, feed the poor? My stepbrother was in Italy a couple of years ago doing his "mission" and in the winter the floors were heated so his little Mormon feet wouldn't be cold...now is that how "Christian money" should be spent...that is not missionary work that is called a vacation while spreading your word for two years? Well maybe that is just my stepbro's experience ( I have never met any other Mormon before my dad married one a few years ago)... And should they be making CASTLE-like structured temples that cost hundreds-of-thousands of dollars...are you trying to prove something?? Has anyone seen the monstrosity in San Diego....I just don't get Mormonism....and there is the whole Joseph Smith and the Mormon bible 🙄

Joseph Smith = Warren Jeffs same person spreading the same nonsense.... thumbdown

Let's all bash things we don't understand. 👆

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Originally posted by Barker
This might just be the stupidest post I've ever read on KMC.

Let's all bash things we don't understand. 👆

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Who was bashing? I had some questions and DEFINATELY had some answers/something to say about what I HAVE noticed around me. How is that bashing? I don't think you read my post right. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND how there are so many followers and it being a CULT 🤪 . That is what I do not understand.

Originally posted by Fade and Remain
This is a forum is it not; a place to word your opinions and write your views and thoughts. I must have missed it in that KMC rules that the word “ghetto” was taboo or frowned upon and that sarcasm is nonexistent here. I was actually being sarcastic. Do you know what sarcasm is? Why does the word ghetto seem to offend you so? Have you ever been to the ghetto? Well if you haven’t just look for the neighborhood that doesn’t have a Mormon Church in it.

Not the word ghetto that made it clear that you were trolling, the word cult made it clear you were trolling.

Originally posted by Fade and Remain
Now as for that website you just plugged -ldschurchtemples-. What was that supposed to show me exactly? That there are monstrosities being build everywhere not just in San Diego. What a shame Mormon money is going to such WASTE.

Originally posted by Fade and Remain
w w w .irr.org/mit/Are-Mormon-Temples-Christian. h t m l <~~ this is what you should have sent me!

Originally posted by Fade and Remain
Hatred--No not hatred. Mormonism has no importance in my life to have me “hate” it. It is not worth my energy to hate it so. I just wanted to get my views and questions posted to see what kind of “sweeping under the rug” answers I get. You are right about one thing though, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND Mormon Cultism whatsoever.

Your trolling has been reported.

Originally posted by Fade and Remain
Who was bashing? I had some questions and DEFINATELY had some answers/something to say about what I HAVE noticed around me. How is that bashing? I don't think you read my post right. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND how there are so many followers and it being a CULT 🤪 . That is what I do not understand.

Originally posted by Fade and Remain
The Mennonite church missionaries would go to orphanages (in Mexico) not resort-like places; missionaries stayed in the orphanage not a suite in a 5-star hotel or floor-heated apartments. We would take the orphanage food, clean water, Clothes upon clothes, toys (of course), and a helping hand. There was no vacation factor whatsoever. All the items were donated and the money was raised in rummage sales, donations, et cetera. We did not have to pay $2,000+ for a vacation abroad just to go door to door pestering people to bring themselves and their wallets to church.

I always knew Mennonites were nice people from my study of Christian religions in general. But you are the only one I’ve met, and you might want to remember that people don’t always know what you really mean unless you communicate it right. You have the appearance of someone who is being a bit…self-righteous right now. I understand though, you aren’t. You are just trying to redefine missionary. I don’t have a problem with that, but don’t jump all over the Mormon Church just because Mormon missionaries follow the real definition of “missionary”.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/missionary

Originally posted by Fade and Remain
that is just my stepbro's experience ( I have never met any other Mormon before my dad married one a few years ago)...

Originally posted by Fade and Remain
Ever since I had the displeasure of knowing Mormons, I now know why atheists have a good argument.

How many Mormons did you say you knew?

Originally posted by Fade and Remain
You wrote, “People who can’t afford tithing simply explain the situation to their bishop.” Do you not see what is wrong with this statement? I guess not. I was raised Mennonite. I never saw my father go to our Pastor and tell him, “We could not give offering this Sunday because _______.” No one should be obligated to put in 10% of their hard earned money into building CASTLE-like structures and making bishops that more richer and no one should be obligated to explain their financial situation with someone WORKING for the LORD.

Ah. You think Mormon bishops get rich off of being bishops and that Mormons have to pay tithing on a weekly routine or the bishop will be unhappy with them. There are churches like that, but Mormon bishops aren’t paid a penny for their services, and they don’t ask people about tithing more then once a year in separate interviews. And you still haven’t enlightened me as what is wrong with my statement.

Originally posted by Fade and Remain
Why are all the "members" rich white people? Why do you HAVE to put in "10% tithes" every month or you get no entrance into the temple?? Marketing strategy maybe??

Originally posted by Fade and Remain
When I say the word “rich” I meant people well off, middle to high-middle class members, people of that stature.

Originally posted by Fade and Remain
What bothers me the most is that you people are not saying, “In my town or where I live there are temples in the ‘ghetto’ or In my church there are blacks, Mexicans, Asians, etc. or In my temple there are a few people that are not financially stable.” Why am I not hearing this?

In my church there are blacks, Mexicans, Asians.

In my temple there are a few people that are not financially stable.

I hope you are happy now that I put it into your words. I thought I made that point clear already:

Originally posted by Quark_666
there are more Mormons outside the United States then there are inside anyway. There are, in fact, nearly as many black Mormons (world wide) as there are white mormons.

Originally posted by Quark_666
People who can’t afford tithing simply explain the situation to their bishop, who will make an exception. Those members receive all the rights and privileges of full tithe payers. In fact, if they are financially poor enough (and can prove it), the bishop is responsible to give them money (from the church budget) to support themselves.

I didn't think race made a difference to doctrine anyway. Moving on though…

Originally posted by Fade and Remain
I guess the word missionary is used loosely in the Mormon community. The Mennonite church missionaries would go to orphanages (in Mexico) not resort-like places; missionaries stayed in the orphanage not a suite in a 5-star hotel or floor-heated apartments. We would take the orphanage food, clean water, Clothes upon clothes, toys (of course), and a helping hand. There was no vacation factor whatsoever. All the items were donated and the money was raised in rummage sales, donations, et cetera. We did not have to pay $2,000+ for a vacation abroad just to go door to door pestering people to bring themselves and their wallets to church. As for my stepbro’s “mission”, my father refused to pay my step-bros “vacation”, which in turn the bishop came to his house and my dad told him where to go and how to get there if you know what I mean. My stepbro’s real father and numerous well off family members ended up having to pay because if they didn’t he was NOT ALLOWED TO GO per the BISHOP. In my opinion that $2,000 should go to more “Christian-like” obligations. Now, I am not arguing that the Mennonite religion/missionary work is better than your religion/missionary work, but don’t you find that there is something really wrong with Mormonism.

You just spent all except the last sentence of this paragraph rambling about Mormon missionaries. In the last sentence, you say that you don’t actually think Mennonite missionary work is better then Mormon missionary work, but there is something wrong with Mormonism itself. Why didn’t you spend that paragraph rambling about Mormonism itself, then? Make up your mind about how to bash my church if you want me to respond accurately.

Originally posted by Fade and Remain
Who was bashing? I had some questions and DEFINATELY had some answers/something to say about what I HAVE noticed around me. How is that bashing? I don't think you read my post right. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND how there are so many followers and it being a CULT . That is what I do not understand.

You still haven’t demonstrated that you know anything about the material of the Mormon doctrine, let alone demonstrated how it is a cult. All you have talked about is money, tithing and your stepbro. I’m taking it you don’t like him much. 🙄

Originally posted by chickenlover98
o ok so basically your god never justified in anyway one of his rules/laws? perfect

Originally posted by Creshosk
How'd you draw that conclusion from the post?

Originally posted by chickenlover98
[QUOTE=9639483]Originally posted by Regret
Another issue raised was the reasons for polygamy. Polygamy was brought into being because God stated it. It's purpose was not necessarily population related, the reasons for it have never been stated.

Doesn't anybody read my posts?

I answered the question the first time chickenlover98 asked about it.

Originally posted by Quark_666
I don't think any God justifies the rules they set. Mostly, their people draw their own conclusions about why the law was set. In the Ten Commandments, God never said "thou shalt not kill because you are equal to others and you will eventually be punished and it is just wrong and isn't part of your purpose." He said "thou shalt not kill", and everybody saw the wisdom behind the commandment.

Not all commandments have such obvious logic. Sometimes, believers in a religion must let go of their necessity to recognize the logic and simply trust the commandment. Because of bias, I try not to get in arguments about my religion (which is Mormonism). But I think it is fair for me to put it this way:

This is the assumed logic (according to most Mormons) behind the commandment of polygamy. It is also what is portrayed in most historical perspectives:

[QUOTE=9615224]Originally posted by Creshosk
[B]Actually mainstream Mormonism gave up the concept of Polygamy in order for desseret to be accepted as the state of Utah. The only reason they practiced it was due to the extermination that happened that drove them out of their homes in Missouri and Illinois. They lost alot of men so there were families without fathers, as there weren't enough men to support them by having one wife a piece.

It's only the offshoots/sects of the mainstream religion that still practice it.

But even if Mormons at the time hadn't seen this point or any other point of logic behind God's commandment, it would have been their religious duty to obey. [/B][/QUOTE]

Creshosk, are you Mormon?

Anyway, I have a lesson to prepare. I teach the Sunday school, primary, and priesthood teachers. I teach the teachers how to teach. 😄

This may help understand Mormons better:

The Sunday before last, (Because last Sunday was General Conference.) I taught the teachers how to effectively teach with the Holy Ghost. I gave them instructions on how to listen and prepare themselves to be receptive to the promptings of the Holy Ghost while they teach. I taught them that they are just instruments acting as holy conduits for Gods words. I told them to stick to gospel principles and not venture off into speculation during their lessons because false doctrine can sometimes arise though discussion. I also taught to control the focus of the lesson on the materials so that the appropriate material can be covered during the lesson. (I also told them sometimes, they may be prompted by the Holy Ghost to focus on only one part of the lesson and not cover hardly any material.) Most of all, I taught that that a gospel teacher really doesn't do the teaching, it is the Holy Ghost who teaches through the teacher to the soul of their gospel pupils. I told them that if they do not prayerfully prepare their lessons and bring the Holy Spirit with them to their lesson, little to no teaching of the soul will occur. I also told them that if a lesson is taught properly, a pupil will both be intellectually stimulated but also spiritually edified and uplifted. (I told that that at this point, it is up to the pupil to decide if they want the things they have learned to improve their lives by working towards perfection of the soul.) I then closed my lesson with a thought: "As a gospel teacher, you have the power, through the Holy Ghost, to touch peoples lives in ways you could never predict. Your righteous words could prevent a person from falling into crime, bring a marriage closer together, strengthen the bond between parent and child, and even turn away enmity in someones heart."

Now, I did prayerfully prepare this lesson and I feel that the Holy Ghost helped me prepare it. I try to keep inappropriate conversation completely out of the class to keep the Holy Spirit with everyone.

What are your thoughts, everyone, on how a Mormon teacher who teaches teachers, teaches? Do these concepts of how a teacher should teach the gospel coincide with your own personal beliefs?

Originally posted by debbiejo
Yeah, why do they go knocking on peoples doors....What if Atheists did that..... 🤨

WOW...what a thought!

AND..telling about some yellow plum, you've never seen before....

Im Mason by birth but I dont follow it Or know a whole lot about it, Only that my grandfather is a crazy ****er who barely speaks english but fromm what I know, Im kinda glad I didnt get into it.

Umm... you can't be a Mason by birth.

No shit, Gotta be what 21 I think?My Gramps was a Grand Mason. Just saying while growing up the men in my family where Masons and it was the only "religion" I was ever exposed to until I moved out of the house.

Originally posted by WickedTexasMomA
😆 You always make me giggle.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Creshosk, are you Mormon?

Originally posted by debbiejo
Well some say it exsits, but I've never seen it. I think it's a lie sent from the devil. 😂

What does it have to do with Mormonism?

Originally posted by WickedTexasMomA
😆 Its a hell of a thing to think about!

Run, they're not real.

*giggles* Depends on how stoned you are , If there real or not.>_> Maybe we should ask RJ!

Originally posted by WickedTexasMomA
*giggles* Depends on how stoned you are , If there real or not.>_> Maybe we should ask RJ!

I find your avatar disturbing...

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I find your avatar disturbing...

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I find your avatar disturbing...

I think his going off about the Rebal Colors in it.🙄