Namor can fly with way faster speeds then we thought!

Started by Creshosk14 pages
Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Dodging them.
Reaction speed Baseball players hit 100+ mph baseballs. but that doesn't mean they run faster than 100+ mph.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Flying faster then 40 MPH.
How does that show more than 40 mph? how does that give any reference to speed?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Speedblitz.
Part of "speed blitzing" ius the sucker punch, catching an opponent off guard doesn't show much for speed feats.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Faster then 40 MPH.
So are you just ignoring what I'm saying now?

That does not show an accurate reference for speed. No time frame igiven for accomplishing these events and no direct speed measurment given.

You're putting your own interpritation into it being 40 mph when there is nothing there to show that.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Flying through Manhattan in seconds.
How do you know it was seconds? We still have no time frame. . .

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Flying fast upwards.
No indication of how fast.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
That's him flying with full vitality. It's valid even though he goes into water.
Problem is that's like someone racing Superman and they are winning and then he just goes therough a pocket of solar energy, it's a plot device.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Atlantean tech is superior to human one, so I suppose it's going very fast.
Until you give a reference of how fast and or how much better It's not really reliable to be used. Because even our tech we have different machines for different speeds. Is that one of their intentionally slower, or faster ones? How fast does it go?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
But he still speedblitzed Spider-Man.

Spiderman underestimated him. . . Wolverine's done that before. And we both know that Wolverine isn't a speed demon. . .

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
As fast as other submarine-launched missiles I presume.
You presume but can't say for certain?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
He is clearly flying faster hen 40 MPH in that picture.
Why because he flew from the iddle of the atlantic over florida with no given time frame?

HOW can you POSSIBLY say how fast he's going from that picture. As I said before, we have him moving, there is the flight path lines drawn in.

There is no time frame, we don't know if it was a full day, hours, minutes seconds or less for him to travel that distence. we have NO time frame.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Does show that the jet is moving like slow motion to him...also check the two last panels. That's where he sets to Antartica.
Anad we have no time frame STILL We don't know how fast anything is moving.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
He flew there from USA, and it didn't took long.
How long? We aren't told. We have no way of saying what his speed is.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Kind of hard, since comics don't calculate the speeds all the time. There is the scan where he is mistaken as plane, though...
Which doesn't help, being mistaken for something, being underestimated, and feats with no time frame don't show his speed. He could be going at mach speeds or less than 10 mph in some of those shots. We don't know because all we have is what is presented. No time frame no speed measurement, no way to say how fast he's moving.

Mr _Whirlysplat Restricted
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
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hey its a pic of Namor smashing a second world war plane cool stuff DC 🙂

As usual GS does not have a clue 🙂

GalacticStorm Smart Alec Know-It-All

Originally posted by Mr _Whirlysplat
not really it shows very little its very close and the sample group is very small. Galactus was winning for days now his not 😕 but thats your level of statistics understanding I guess.

You really have not read many comics have you 🙂

Yeah but the difference is the results always the same wherever Phoenix is concerned. 🙂

Dont be such a stress head. 🙂 It was only a little debate. You should be used to such a turnout by now. Come on mate youve been debating with me for quite some time now. 🙂

Mr _Whirlysplat Restricted

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Yeah but the difference is the results always the same wherever Phoenix is concerned. 🙂

Dont be such a stress head. 🙂 It was only a little debate. You should be used to such a turnout by now. Come on mate youve been debating with me for quite some time now. 🙂

not at all hardly any difference and with Phoenix many disagree, sock all you like to "prove you point". 🙂

Hey look its Namor smashing a plane 🙂

Its Xornetto killing Phoenix 🙂

Its nearly half the members of this board who voted saying Galactus beats Phoenix 🙂 and statistically means nothing.

Your point is? 😕

DarkCrawler KABOOOOM!!

Originally posted by Creshosk

Which doesn't help, being mistaken for something, being underestimated, and feats with no time frame don't show his speed. He could be going at mach speeds or less than 10 mph in some of those shots. We don't know because all we have is what is presented. No time frame no speed measurement, no way to say how fast he's moving.

You can clearly see that he is moving fast...usually the lines behind mean that...and if he would be flying at 40 MPH, I doubt that he would be mistaken as plane.

Problem is that's like someone racing Superman and they are winning and then he just goes therough a pocket of solar energy, it's a plot device.

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So If I say Namor straight from water is able to fly with said speeds, it doesn't matter because he can't be in his prime?

That's Namor showing flight speed that he is capable of doing.

Until you give a reference of how fast and or how much better It's not really reliable to be used. Because even our tech we have different machines for different speeds. Is that one of their intentionally slower, or faster ones? How fast does it go?

The bad guy had unlimited resources to Atlantean war tech (He was general) and he knew Namor was going to go after him, so he probably chose the fast one...

GalacticStorm Smart Alec Know-It-All

Originally posted by Mr _Whirlysplat
not at all hardly any difference and with Phoenix many disagree, sock all you like to "prove you point". 🙂

Hey look its Namor smashing a plane 🙂

Its Xornetto killing Phoenix 🙂

Its nearly half the members of this board who voted saying Galactus beats Phoenix 🙂 and statistically means nothing.

Your point is? 😕

Whirly i think you have forgotten the terms of the thread. The thread was for Dark Phoenix not Phoenix. Youre average member doesnt know that there isnt actually a difference and so voted with that in mind. 🙂

When i stated that there wasnt a difference and when the threadmaker said its Phoenix of current continuity. Thats when you saw the turnaround my friend. 🙂

If you were to make a thread called the Phoenix Force versus Galactus you'll end up with a very different result. 🙂

Lesson time over. 😂

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
You can clearly see that he is moving fast...usually the lines behind mean that...and if he would be flying at 40 MPH, I doubt that he would be mistaken as plane.
He's flying in the sky and is a large object, that's enough for some people.

After all Superman's been mistaken as a bird and a plane. . but that's because he was a flying object. That's all.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
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So If I say Namor straight from water is able to fly with said speeds, it doesn't matter because he can't be in his prime?

That's Namor showing flight speed that he is capable of doing.

Because usually that's not how the fights are stated in these forums. So as such any outside event (environmental or what have you) that tips the scales in the favor of a character is refered to as a plot device. He appeared to be having difficulty catching the plane until he hit the water. and then he caught it instantly. . . So if he had not hit the water, would the results have been different?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
The bad guy had unlimited resources to Atlantean war tech (He was general) and he knew Namor was going to go after him, so he probably chose the fast one...
So we still have no idea on it then. . . I mean you could send out a fairly fast one as a decoy and a faster one to do the actual job. . . but hey we still have no idea of the speed.

Mr _Whirlysplat Restricted

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Whirly i think you have forgotten the terms of the thread. The thread was for Dark Phoenix not Phoenix. Youre average member doesnt know that there isnt actually a difference and so voted with that in mind. 🙂

When i stated that there wasnt a difference and when the threadmaker said its Phoenix of current continuity. Thats when you saw the turnaround my friend. 🙂

If you were to make a thread called the Phoenix Force versus Galactus you'll end up with a very different result. 🙂

Lesson time over. 😂

So your admitting that your previous comment was wrong and telling me lesson time is over after we have seen your wrong in this thread. 😂

very sad

DarkCrawler KABOOOOM!!

Originally posted by Creshosk

Because usually that's not how the fights are stated in these forums. So as such any outside event (environmental or what have you) that tips the scales in the favor of a character is refered to as a plot device. He appeared to be having difficulty catching the plane until he hit the water. and then he caught it instantly. . . So if he had not hit the water, would the results have been different?

He was nearly catching the plane.

He was not in his prime when trying to capture the plane first time...he had just lead a large scale attack on NY.

And Namor straight from water is the most used Namor version in these forums. That is just fair. If the other opponent can be in his/her prime, why couldn't the other?

GalacticStorm Smart Alec Know-It-All

Originally posted by Mr _Whirlysplat
So your admitting that your previous comment was wrong and telling me lesson time is over after we have seen your wrong in this thread. 😂

very sad

But as Phoenix won in that thread how have i rendered my previous statement wrong? 😕

Very confused old man. 🙁

DarkCrawler KABOOOOM!!

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GalacticStorm Smart Alec Know-It-All

I can hear the brain working away. Any minute now 😂

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
He was nearly catching the plane.

He was not in his prime when trying to capture the plane first time...he had just lead a large scale attack on NY.

And Namor straight from water is the most used Namor version in these forums. That is just fair. If the other opponent can be in his/her prime, why couldn't the other?

Um, because it's like a sundipped superman versus normal superman?

Just a thought. . .

DarkCrawler KABOOOOM!!

Originally posted by Creshosk
Um, because it's like a sundipped superman versus normal superman?

Just a thought. . .

So he sould be dehydrated?

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
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Uh, those aren't all part of the same comic are they?

They seem rather disjointed and also don't show much as far as speed goes. . .

Though I would avoid using the one where namor is caught in a down draft and unable to escape as current evidence against Storm . . .

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
So he sould be dehydrated?
Should Superman always be "sun dipped"?

DarkCrawler KABOOOOM!!

Originally posted by Creshosk
Uh, those aren't all part of the same comic are they?

They seem rather disjointed and also don't show much as far as speed goes. . .

Though I would avoid using the one where namor is caught in a down draft and unable to escape as current evidence against Storm . . .

Lol, Namor was like 12 at the time he took out his first plane. Not really as strong as fast or as good in flying as he is now. That's why he was sucked in updraft.

And no, they are not all part of the same comic. Just to show that you wouldn't say that "He only did that once".

Disjointed or not, Namor took out fighter planes. Lots of them.

That can't be done with 40 MPH speed.

And doesn't show speed...? He catched that plane. As 12 year old.

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Mr _Whirlysplat Restricted

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
But as Phoenix won in that thread how have i rendered my previous statement wrong? 😕

Very confused old man. 🙁

not at all, you read back.

Namor smashed the plane.

Phoenix and Galactus are almost tied for days at the begining Galactus was winning I pointed this oput to you and his poll within an hour changed yet the post count did not 😂

Not confused - honest

Phoenix means so much to you 🙂

little boy

GalacticStorm Smart Alec Know-It-All

Originally posted by Mr _Whirlysplat
not at all, you read back.

Namor smashed the plane.

Phoenix and Galactus are almost tied for days at the begining Galactus was winning I pointed this oput to you and his poll within an hour changed yet the post count did not 😂

Not confused - honest

Phoenix means so much to you 🙂

little boy

😂 Whirly what do you take me for. Im no Mider or Leonheart. Your clumsy attempts to goad me are hilarious. 😂

Grow up old man. Find a better way to spend your spare time then trying to make people feel bad about themselves. What that suggests about yourself is most worrying indeed. 🙁

You poor soul. 🙁 🙂

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Lol, Namor was like 12 at the time he took out his first plane. Not really as strong as fast or as good in flying as he is now. That's why he was sucked in updraft.

And no, they are not all part of the same comic. Just to show that you wouldn't say that "He only did that once".

Disjointed or not, Namor took out fighter planes. Lots of them.

That can't be done with 40 MPH speed.

And doesn't show speed...? He catched that plane. As 12 year old.

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Because there is still the doubt of the plane flying towards him as opposed to away from him. So which of those shows him racing and then catching the plane? as opposed to flying into a plane that is also flying at him?