That scanned issue is total SvF. Daredevil tossing Caps shield hard enough to put Herc down? Please.
Close bout. I'll give 7 out of 10 to cap though. If he fights DD's fight he'd loose, but he's smart enough not to do that. Between wearing armor and general toughness, he can just soak up far more damage than DD. He takes one sacrifice hit to catch him and changes to wrestling where he wins.
Originally posted by King KAM
everyone is talking about DDs senses, sense when does a heightened nose, and hearing, help in a fist fight???? that is the lamest excuse ever.
* radar senses, it can predict Cap's moves before it can hit DD, and with DD's extreme agility, he dodge most of Cap's attacks... with radar sense, DD can perfectly hit nerve attacks, leave Cap numb... DD wins after a tough fight, DD 6-6.5/10 IMO... 😉
Originally posted by peejaydthats not true at all, or dd wouldnt ever be hit by frank castle nor bullseye nor Kingpin, and yet hes been tagged something vicioous by all of them
* radar senses, it can predict Cap's moves before it can hit DD, and with DD's extreme agility, he dodge most of Cap's attacks... with radar sense, DD can perfectly hit nerve attacks, leave Cap numb... DD wins after a tough fight, DD 6-6.5/10 IMO... 😉
Capt wins this
This is why
Nothing in comics is absolute. A character's special senses is going to fail them sometimes. For example, Spider-man has gotten hit plenty of times (what was wrong with his spider sense?). Daredevil has also been hit on several occassions (what was wrong with his radar sense?).
Capt is a master fighter. No way is he is going to sit there and let DD hit his pressure point. Capt durability is a factor as well. He has taken direct blows from the Hulk and was still in battle. But if Capt land one good blow on DD then the fight is over. This is possible (He has hurt many super powered beings with his kicks alone and DD radar sense is sometimes suspect). Plus master grappling ability beats master striking ability 99% of the time.
In comics, the resons for things happening(Flash geting hit, Spidey-sence screwing up, radar screwing up, auto shields not coming up), is because its intended to make to plot/story/fight more interesting.
Written at full potential or at peak capacity, Daredevils radar prevents him from getting hit by any street level and some 100 cl characters. You cant say Cap has taken hits from Hulk and was still in battle when Daredevil has knocked him out in one move. There has to be some sort of balance. Daredevil has also taken hits from the Hulk as well as other 100 cl characters. Hell, he dodges Spiderman pretty easily. Im not saying that Cap isnt durable, but he can be knocked out by Daredevil.
If Cap gets one good hit on DD its over? Not likely for 2 reasons. Fist one is Cap would NEVER land a full direct hit on Daredevil. Im talking written at peak level's here. Not for the sake of a greak comic battle. Daredevil would either have Cap missing every hit or rolling with the hits to make them less effective, thus avoiding getting knocked out.
Cap isnt the only master fighter here and will be in for a tough one. I know in my original post i said Cap 6/10, but it can really go either way. Caps only real advantage here would be his superior stamina.
Originally posted by jrodslamthats not true...how is it PIS all the time, he can predict the movements of a lesser opponents, but when faced against someone who can match his skills, his radar sense just isnt enough to give him a fight, because technically every good fighter"reads" there oppenent, and tries to see the move before coming, his is only different because he doesnt have eyes to do it with... now i understand this is a good skill to have, but cap reads guys just like DD does....
In comics, the resons for things happening(Flash geting hit, Spidey-sence screwing up, radar screwing up, auto shields not coming up), is because its intended to make to plot/story/fight more interesting.Written at full potential or at peak capacity, Daredevils radar prevents him from getting hit by any street level and some 100 cl characters. You cant say Cap has taken hits from Hulk and was still in battle when Daredevil has knocked him out in one move. There has to be some sort of balance. Daredevil has also taken hits from the Hulk as well as other 100 cl characters. Hell, he dodges Spiderman pretty easily. Im not saying that Cap isnt durable, but he can be knocked out by Daredevil.
If Cap gets one good hit on DD its over? Not likely for 2 reasons. Fist one is Cap would NEVER land a full direct hit on Daredevil. Im talking written at peak level's here. Not for the sake of a greak comic battle. Daredevil would either have Cap missing every hit or rolling with the hits to make them less effective, thus avoiding getting knocked out.
Cap isnt the only master fighter here and will be in for a tough one. I know in my original post i said Cap 6/10, but it can really go either way. Caps only real advantage here would be his superior stamina.
Originally posted by King KAM
thats not true...how is it PIS all the time, he can predict the movements of a lesser opponents, but when faced against someone who can match his skills, his radar sense just isnt enough to give him a fight, because technically every good fighter"reads" there oppenent, and tries to see the move before coming, his is only different because he doesnt have eyes to do it with... now i understand this is a good skill to have, but cap reads guys just like DD does....
Its true indeed. Im not saying its pis all the time, but a good majority of it. You say when Daredevil is faced against someone who can match his skill, his radar isnt enough? Daredevil dodging every punch or kick thrown in a fight would make for a boring one. You have Spiderman whos hand speed is faster than most heroes, yet he has a hard time landing hits or at least good hits on Daredevil. You have Namor who also has a hard time knocking DD out because of punched not landing properly.
Youre putting DD's ability to "read" moves on the same level of every other street level hero with high knowledge in h2h combat. That isnt the case. Daredevil's ability to "read" moves is better than most or probably all street lvl'ers. Fighters such as Cap, Punisher, Fury can try to read there oppenent, and "try" to see the move before coming. Daredevil on the other hand already knows the move which is coming just by hearing the heartbeat or listening to muscles tense. You simply cant compare the 2. Cap doesnt read people like DD does at all.
* if Cap hits DD, then it's over? don't make me laugh... considering Cap's strength, DD may stagger, yes... but KO'ed? now, that's BS... DD had taken punches from characters far stronger than Cap... in the first place, it would be hard for Cap to land a clean shot at DD, even the quick and agile Spidey had hit DD and DD just rolled with the punch, and Spidey considers his hits on DD not really that effective... so how did DD do that? the radar sense is the factor which the Cap-fanboy keeps on underrating... DD once even overwhelmed Spidey (consider Spidey's quickness and agility) with a dozen or more punches to KO Spidey for a short while... and Cap's not quicker nor more agile than Spidey... this fight may really go either way but i still lean towards DD on winning...