Captain America versus Daredevil!!!

Originally posted by peejayd
* if Cap hits DD, then it's over? don't make me laugh... considering Cap's strength, DD may stagger, yes... but KO'ed? now, that's BS... DD had taken punches from characters far stronger than Cap... in the first place, it would be hard for Cap to land a clean shot at DD, even the quick and agile Spidey had hit DD and DD just rolled with the punch, and Spidey considers his hits on DD not really that effective... so how did DD do that? the radar sense is the factor which the Cap-fanboy keeps on underrating... DD once even overwhelmed Spidey (consider Spidey's quickness and agility) with a dozen or more punches to KO Spidey for a short while... and Cap's not quicker nor more agile than Spidey... this fight may really go either way but i still lean towards DD on winning...

The scans in this forum that show DD getting hit by Spidey and DD says that Spidey is moving faster than he can percieve is the pis. Why do i say that? Because after that initial hit, DD goes on do dodge every punch thrown by Spidey. Daredevil dodges and rolls with the punches much more than Spidey ever hits him. Thats way more consistant. There are also scans on this forum of Spidey saying how he cant believe how fast Daredevil is and how he cant land a solid hit on him no matter how fast he tries. I go wioth the one thats more consistant.

Originally posted by jrodslam
The scans in this forum that show DD getting hit by Spidey and DD says that Spidey is moving faster than he can percieve is the pis. Why do i say that? Because after that initial hit, DD goes on do dodge every punch thrown by Spidey. Daredevil dodges and rolls with the punches much more than Spidey ever hits him. Thats way more consistant. There are also scans on this forum of Spidey saying how he cant believe how fast Daredevil is and how he cant land a solid hit on him no matter how fast he tries. I go wioth the one thats more consistant.

some things are obviously false. sometimes writers are human and do think (or know) of how to write certain things. They wind up contradicting themselves or other writers. For example, a certain spidey comic said that spidey reflexes operate up to 40 times faster than a human. Dividing a bullet's speed by 40 and he sees them coming at 20mph (human top running speed). This means he sees action in slow motion. He also moves fast enough to dodge them while they are in the air. He moves almost similar to the bullet speed (appearing to anyway from slow motion). Him seeing bullets traveling 20mph means he sees DD almost still and in which only himself can move. Then how can he miss DD? B.S.
The statement DD made about Spidey's speed is the correct one. And not Spidey swinging and missing DD. There is obvious a contradiction here. But I would rather believe that Spidey sees in slow motion and DD is still in this slow motion. Otherwise, DD moves as fast as a bullet himself.

Originally posted by h1a8
some things are obviously false. sometimes writers are human and do think (or know) of how to write certain things. They wind up contradicting themselves or other writers. For example, a certain spidey comic said that spidey reflexes operate up to 40 times faster than a human. Dividing a bullet's speed by 40 and he sees them coming at 20mph (human top running speed). This means he sees action in slow motion. He also moves fast enough to dodge them while they are in the air. He moves almost similar to the bullet speed (appearing to anyway from slow motion). Him seeing bullets traveling 20mph means he sees DD almost still and in which only himself can move. Then how can he miss DD? B.S.
The statement DD made about Spidey's speed is the correct one. And not Spidey swinging and missing DD. There is obvious a contradiction here. But I would rather believe that Spidey sees in slow motion and DD is still in this slow motion. Otherwise, DD moves as fast as a bullet himself.

I agree that writers contradict things. I dont however believe that Spiderman is 40x faster than a human. Faster yea, but 40x? I have my doubts. Its cool if many dont agree with me on that one. Daredevil however also moves faster than the normal human. Hes listed as peakhuman in many of his abilities and slightly above in others. Daredevil is also fast enough to dodge bullets while they are in the air. Hell, he sees them as they cut through the air which allows for him to dodge even easier. Daredevil has been shot at while standing less than 15 feet from the gun and still was able to bat the bullet away back at the shooter. Hes batted bullets at least 8 times.

Now you say Spiderman missing DD is bs? I think not. Especially considering Daredevil is able to hear Spidermans muscles tense up or hear his heartbeat jump BEFORE he even executes a move. Maybe the bs was writing how Spiderman moves 40x faster than a human. When the two fight, they are both well capable of hitting each other, but the difference is that Spiderman cant fully connect with his blows like Daredevil can. Its much too consistant for Spiderman to get hit from DD than it is for him to see DD in slow motion considering Spiderman was surprised with Daredevils speed on a copuple of occasions. Does DD move as fast as bullets? Who knows. But he certainly moves/reacts fast enough to dodge and bat bulles away after they have been fired.

* okay... but Cap's no faster nor quicker than Spidey, so DD can land multiple nerve shots to Cap, DD will eventually win...

Originally posted by jrodslam
I agree that writers contradict things. I dont however believe that Spiderman is 40x faster than a human. Faster yea, but 40x? I have my doubts. Its cool if many dont agree with me on that one. Daredevil however also moves faster than the normal human. Hes listed as peakhuman in many of his abilities and slightly above in others. Daredevil is also fast enough to dodge bullets while they are in the air. Hell, he sees them as they cut through the air which allows for him to dodge even easier. Daredevil has been shot at while standing less than 15 feet from the gun and still was able to bat the bullet away back at the shooter. Hes batted bullets at least 8 times.

Now you say Spiderman missing DD is bs? I think not. Especially considering Daredevil is able to hear Spidermans muscles tense up or hear his heartbeat jump BEFORE he even executes a move. Maybe the bs was writing how Spiderman moves 40x faster than a human. When the two fight, they are both well capable of hitting each other, but the difference is that Spiderman cant fully connect with his blows like Daredevil can. Its much too consistant for Spiderman to get hit from DD than it is for him to see DD in slow motion considering Spiderman was surprised with Daredevils speed on a copuple of occasions. Does DD move as fast as bullets? Who knows. But he certainly moves/reacts fast enough to dodge and bat bulles away after they have been fired.

I didn't say Spidey is 40x faster but his reflexes operate 40x faster.
Second, no human (even peak) can move anywhere comparable to a bullet. To accept this in a comic is to accept that humans are bulletproof or humans can jump up to 3 miles. Ridiculous! The fastest kick ever recorded by a human is 72mph (fastest punch is 100mph). The fastest running speed ever recorded is 26mph. These speeds are considered still-life when compared to a bullet (over 2000mph). Just watch a bullet in slow motion in comparison to these speeds and you would see what I am talking about. Spidey on the other hand can move in decent comparison to a bullet (maybe dodge half as fast and punch just as fast). This is to be accepted since he is not human and can press somewhat over 10tons which gives him the necessary force strength to accelerate to these speeds. I don't care if DD can hear Spidey's heartbeat or sense his muscles tense. There is no way DD(a human) can avoid a smart bullet (spidey's fists) or a bullet that can change directions while in midair. Still not convinced!
Then if you calculate the speed DD would need to bat a bullet 15ft away after it is midair you would get a speed that is over 200mph (very much out of the range of a peak human). This speed is also required to move the body out of the way of the path of a bullet in midair (but peak human running/dodging speed is about 26mph). Reflexes/senses are one thing and moving speed is another my friend.

Originally posted by h1a8
I didn't say Spidey is 40x faster but his reflexes operate 40x faster.
Second, no human (even peak) can move anywhere comparable to a bullet. To accept this in a comic is to accept that humans are bulletproof or humans can jump up to 3 miles. Ridiculous! The fastest kick ever recorded by a human is 72mph (fastest punch is 100mph). The fastest running speed ever recorded is 26mph. These speeds are considered still-life when compared to a bullet (over 2000mph). Just watch a bullet in slow motion in comparison to these speeds and you would see what I am talking about. Spidey on the other hand can move in decent comparison to a bullet (maybe dodge half as fast and punch just as fast). This is to be accepted since he is not human and can press somewhat over 10tons which gives him the necessary force strength to accelerate to these speeds. I don't care if DD can hear Spidey's heartbeat or sense his muscles tense. There is no way DD(a human) can avoid a smart bullet (spidey's fists) or a bullet that can change directions while in midair. Still not convinced!
Then if you calculate the speed DD would need to bat a bullet 15ft away after it is midair you would get a speed that is over 200mph (very much out of the range of a peak human). This speed is also required to move the body out of the way of the path of a bullet in midair (but peak human running/dodging speed is about 26mph). Reflexes/senses are one thing and moving speed is another my friend.

if by nothing else than stamina alone.

Originally posted by h1a8
I didn't say Spidey is 40x faster but his reflexes operate 40x faster.
Second, no human (even peak) can move anywhere comparable to a bullet. To accept this in a comic is to accept that humans are bulletproof or humans can jump up to 3 miles. Ridiculous! The fastest kick ever recorded by a human is 72mph (fastest punch is 100mph). The fastest running speed ever recorded is 26mph. These speeds are considered still-life when compared to a bullet (over 2000mph). Just watch a bullet in slow motion in comparison to these speeds and you would see what I am talking about. Spidey on the other hand can move in decent comparison to a bullet (maybe dodge half as fast and punch just as fast). This is to be accepted since he is not human and can press somewhat over 10tons which gives him the necessary force strength to accelerate to these speeds. I don't care if DD can hear Spidey's heartbeat or sense his muscles tense. There is no way DD(a human) can avoid a smart bullet (spidey's fists) or a bullet that can change directions while in midair. Still not convinced!
Then if you calculate the speed DD would need to bat a bullet 15ft away after it is midair you would get a speed that is over 200mph (very much out of the range of a peak human). This speed is also required to move the body out of the way of the path of a bullet in midair (but peak human running/dodging speed is about 26mph). Reflexes/senses are one thing and moving speed is another my friend.

You really dont have to be convinced my friend. Its in the comics. Thats what DD does. DD bats bullets like its nothing. Seemingly by your interpretation, Daredevil would be well above peak human. Hes has dodged Spideys fists(smart bullet) and laser fire that tracks by using your thinking pattern to predict where your going to move. DD is just that fast. If Spiderman himself is in awe of how fast DD is, then that alone should tell you something. Reflexes and moving speed would go hand'n'hand more than reflexes/senses would. Your reflex is how you react to a certain thing. You moving speed would be a product of that reaction. Daredevil's senses let him know of something BEFORE it happens, thus it gives him ample amount of time to react to it. Thats why many characters, mobs etc think DD is a mind reader or magician of the sorts. That alone is why his reflexes would be Spideys level or higher. Its up to you if you wanna believe it or not, but the comics show how it is.😄

Originally posted by King KAM
and yet cap can run 60mph....so hes not human at all... and cap wins....

if by nothing else than stamina alone.

🤨 Cap runs at 60 mph? Where was this shown? Can you prove that?

And yes, of all abilities and attributes, Cap's stamina would be the factor in a long drawn out battle. Although theyve had one and stamina wasnt an issue. Unless ofcourse the fight would have went on for another hour or so.

Originally posted by jrodslam
🤨 Cap runs at 60 mph? Where was this shown? Can you prove that?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Captain America Anniversary issue. He said he can ran a mile in just under a minute.

Captain America has a very high degree of endurance. That doesnt meant he never gets tired. At full exertion, he probably can cover a mile in under a minute, but 60 miles an hour? That may be pushing it. Him saying one thing doesnt mean another. Unless ofcourse hes actually done it.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Captain America has a very high degree of endurance. That doesnt meant he never gets tired. At full exertion, he probably can cover a mile in under a minute, but 60 miles an hour? That may be pushing it. Him saying one thing doesnt mean another. Unless ofcourse hes actually done it.

He actually did. I don't remember what thread it's in, but I've seen it just recently, just a few days ago. Cap picks up a hurt child and bolts to a nearby town, at 60 mph. Ask King KAM to show you, I think he's got it.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
He actually did. I don't remember what thread it's in, but I've seen it just recently, just a few days ago. Cap picks up a hurt child and bolts to a nearby town, at 60 mph. Ask King KAM to show you, I think he's got it.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
He actually did. I don't remember what thread it's in, but I've seen it just recently, just a few days ago. Cap picks up a hurt child and bolts to a nearby town, at 60 mph. Ask King KAM to show you, I think he's got it.

Actually he didnt.

King Kam said Cap can run 60 mph. He stated that he can cover a mile in a little over a minute. The scan is not proving Cap can run at 60 mph.

Originally posted by King KAM
why uh, yes i do actually....
thanks for the shout out metal man...we seem to be becming good friends these days.... http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ca010087zv.jpg

Yea, that's pretty crazy. Ah well, I like to friend my enemies if possible. Heh 😛

Originally posted by jrodslam
Actually he didnt.

King Kam said Cap can run 60 mph. He stated that he can cover a mile in a little over a minute. The scan is not proving Cap can run at 60 mph.

* so?

well im only sayin daredevil cause his raydar sence allows him alot of speed he can dodge bullets so wat im sayin is his raydar sence allows his reflexes to adjust to the speed he needs it to be with in reason no were ner sups or flashes but faster then caps

u cant beat wat u cant hit

but cap has hit DD many a time.