Captain America versus Daredevil!!!

Started by He-guy886 pages

yes thats tru and i know this is not a good argument but in comics and tv all that stuff they play it by wat they need it to go by if they need dd to get shot he will if not he'll dodge so its all academic

Originally posted by jrodslam
You really dont have to be convinced my friend. Its in the comics. Thats what DD does. DD bats bullets like its nothing. Seemingly by your interpretation, Daredevil would be well above peak human. Hes has dodged Spideys fists(smart bullet) and laser fire that tracks by using your thinking pattern to predict where your going to move. DD is just that fast. If Spiderman himself is in awe of how fast DD is, then that alone should tell you something. Reflexes and moving speed would go hand'n'hand more than reflexes/senses would. Your reflex is how you react to a certain thing. You moving speed would be a product of that reaction. Daredevil's senses let him know of something BEFORE it happens, thus it gives him ample amount of time to react to it. Thats why many characters, mobs etc think DD is a mind reader or magician of the sorts. That alone is why his reflexes would be Spideys level or higher. Its up to you if you wanna believe it or not, but the comics show how it is.😄

You didn't get my point!
It doesn't matter how well DD can predict action. He cannot dodge a smart bullet (A bullet who changes direction in the air).
A human (not superbeing) performing feats way out of the range (not a little) of human ability is called PIS.

Is batman's chin bulletproof?
Can batman move faster than Superman can perceive?
Can a human move their body faster than 200mph?

If anyone answers yes to anyone of those questions then they obviously lack basic common sense and are wasting people time with their arguments.

This whole comic vs. arguing stuff is nonsense and a waste of time if there is no understanding of what is acceptible and what is not.

* Cap maybe faster than DD in running but not quicker... DD's more agile... top that? with radar senses to boot... Cap loses... 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
* Cap maybe faster than DD in running but not quicker... DD's more agile... top that? with radar senses to boot... Cap loses... 😉
i dont know ive seen cap drop DD in 1 punch, which DD didnt see coming.....

* which is BS, right? 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
* which is BS, right? 😉
not bs, DD has lost fist fights to Kingpin, bullseye,and has tied with Iron Fist, he isnt nearly as flashy when it comes to actual competition

* but Cap does not have what is take to beat DD... save an exclusive fight of raw strength, durability & stamina... a straight-up fight between these two would have DD as an obvious victor... the radar sense is a great factor which Cap can't overcome... 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
* but Cap does not have what is take to beat DD... save an exclusive fight of raw strength, durability & stamina... a straight-up fight between these two would have DD as an obvious victor... the radar sense is a great factor which Cap can't overcome... 😉
cap has already overcome it.

* which is another BS, right? nowhere in Cap's bio can he overcome DD's powers as you claim... 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
* which is another BS, right? nowhere in Cap's bio can he overcome DD's powers as you claim... 😉
your have no actual arguments, so im just going to ignore you untill you post something worth replying.

Originally posted by h1a8
You didn't get my point!
It doesn't matter how well DD can predict action. He cannot dodge a smart bullet (A bullet who changes direction in the air).
A human (not superbeing) performing feats way out of the range (not a little) of human ability is called PIS.

Is batman's chin bulletproof?
Can batman move faster than Superman can perceive?
Can a human move their body faster than 200mph?

If anyone answers yes to anyone of those questions then they obviously lack basic common sense and are wasting people time with their arguments.

This whole comic vs. arguing stuff is nonsense and a waste of time if there is no understanding of what is acceptible and what is not.

I got your point, but it seems as if you didnt get mine. You say Daredevil cant dodge a smart bullet, yet hes dodged lasers that tracked his thoughts. Who in comics has dodged smart bullets? You cant say Daredevil cant if hes never been faced against them. IF the bullet were to change direction in the air, Daredevil would be able to do the same. Hell, he twists and turns while in the air all the time to avoid things. You cant call the things that DD does PIS because he does it in most of his comics. Its a consistant thing with him. Its part of his character and ability.

Why are you asking is Batmans chin bulletproof? What is that suppose to prove? Has Batman ever been shot square in the chin?
Can Batman move faster than Superman can percieve? Youre bringing up strawmans. What does Batman taking bullets to the chin or moving faster than Supes percieve have to do with Daredevils abilities?

Youre talking about what acceptable in comics? Helloo, its comics aka fiction. Characters do things that are extraordinary. Why is it that when people shoot at Cap, they aim directly for the shield the majority of the time and never for the feet or legs? How come Batman never gets shot in the face? Its called entertainment. Because certain things dont seem realistically possible, they should be ignored? A man flying is acceptible, but someone dodging bullets isnt.😬

Were all intitled to our opinions. If you feel arguing this is a waste of time, then dont. 😄

Originally posted by King KAM
i dont know ive seen cap drop DD in 1 punch, which DD didnt see coming.....

Dont forget that when Cap knocked DOWN DD(not out) with 2 punches, DD wasnt 100% from his fight in Mephistos relam.

Yet DD on the other hand has knocked out Cap with one move before.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Dont forget that when Cap knocked DOWN DD(not out) with 2 punches, DD wasnt 100% from his fight in Mephistos relam.

Yet DD on the other hand has knocked out Cap with one move before.

hahahaha i think we are talking about a different fight...lol

Originally posted by King KAM
your have no actual arguments, so im just going to ignore you untill you post something worth replying.

* you sure are a hairline-close to being a Wolverine-fanboy, vouching for Captain America... 😆

* there is no way you can prove Cap can overcome DD's radar sense... for DD not able to sense Cap... just admit you're making this all up to make Cap win... 😉

there has been a fight of these to and its ovious who was in the worst shape at the end

Originally posted by King KAM
hahahaha i think we are talking about a different fight...lol

I dont think so. To my knowledge, they have only fought 4 times. The fight you mention is the only timie Cap came close to knocking DD out and he still didnt. DD was down, but not knocked out. What fihgt are you talkng about if its not that instance?

Originally posted by jrodslam
I got your point, but it seems as if you didnt get mine. You say Daredevil cant dodge a smart bullet, yet hes dodged lasers that tracked his thoughts. Who in comics has dodged smart bullets? You cant say Daredevil cant if hes never been faced against them. IF the bullet were to change direction in the air, Daredevil would be able to do the same. Hell, he twists and turns while in the air all the time to avoid things. You cant call the things that DD does PIS because he does it in most of his comics. Its a consistant thing with him. Its part of his character and ability.

Why are you asking is Batmans chin bulletproof? What is that suppose to prove? Has Batman ever been shot square in the chin?
Can Batman move faster than Superman can percieve? Youre bringing up strawmans. What does Batman taking bullets to the chin or moving faster than Supes percieve have to do with Daredevils abilities?

Youre talking about what acceptable in comics? Helloo, its comics aka fiction. Characters do things that are extraordinary. Why is it that when people shoot at Cap, they aim directly for the shield the majority of the time and never for the feet or legs? How come Batman never gets shot in the face? Its called entertainment. Because certain things dont seem realistically possible, they should be ignored? A man flying is acceptible, but someone dodging bullets isnt.😬

Were all intitled to our opinions. If you feel arguing this is a waste of time, then dont. 😄

A human man flying like Superman on his natural own power is not acceptible. But a superbeing flying is. No one on this forum should accept and use that a human being can move as fast (or near as fast) as a bullet, no matter what they see in comics, as arguing material and still have good sense. Now if a character is non human then it is acceptible to have them do anything.
The definition or point of PIS is not just that it happens consistently (I can argue whether DD dodging spiderman and swatting bullets after they've been fired happened consistently though) but, is it logically possible (not factually possible which is a different thing)?

The reason why I brung up batman because he does feats like this on a regular basis (he gets hit on the chin by villians who punch harder than bullet force and has many speed vs. superman, GL, etc. feats).

Should these be accepted? Please answer this in your next post.

Or do the writer just want to sell more comics by being logically in error.
Batman and DD are human for crying out loud. These feats are obviously PIS (not based on inconsistency though). I can see if these feats were a little out of the range of peak human. But those feats are in the vast-superpower territory (like superman, wonder-woman, thor, etc.).
Plot Induced Stupidity at its finest.