Re: Current Spectre VS. Team Marvel
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Marvel has 1 month of prep. Spectre has none.Team Marvel:
The Vishanti(All 3 of them)
The Keeper
Dr. Strange
Talisman(Alpha Flight)
Rune King Thor
Rachel Summers(Phoenix)VS.
Current Spectre(Rogue)
Battle takes place within the realm of the Vishanti. Agamotto's realm.
any one of the Vishanti would give Spectre battle without Prep.
Prep isn't much of an issue.
in their realm they are all.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Spectre in current mode wins easily.
He can absorb magic from anything.
And what's this I heard from Longpig about a hooker stealing Specte's power?
He's beating Talisman and Dr. Strange alright. Rune King Thor is going to give him trouble. Spectre 7/10.
Keeper and Rachael ain't magic. He's beating Keeper through raw power. Against Rachael, not sure but Spectre couldn't take her. Phoenix is overrated. Rachael Summers is between Galactus and Cube Beings.
As for the Vishanti, Shazam is not on their level. He's around skyfather.
Against an entire team in Agamotto's realm, the team stomps him. Obsorbing power from Shazam isn't the same is that from Strange, a top tier skyfather, and 3 Galactus level mystics.
Originally posted by Beyonder
And what's this I heard from Longpig about a hooker stealing Specte's power?He's beating Talisman and Dr. Strange alright. Rune King Thor is going to give him trouble. Spectre 7/10.
Keeper and Rachael ain't magic. He's beating Keeper through raw power. Against Rachael, not sure but Spectre couldn't take her. Phoenix is overrated. Rachael Summers is between Galactus and Cube Beings.
As for the Vishanti, Shazam is not on their level. He's around skyfather.
Against an entire team in Agamotto's realm, the team stomps him. Obsorbing power from Shazam isn't the same is that from Strange, a top tier skyfather, and 3 Galactus level mystics.
Difference.
You're using ridiculous hearsay, and I have the comic where he says and shows he can do exactly what he said. 🙂
Rogue Spectre IS NOT omni-powerful!
Black Alice OWNED him...no matter how short or how long she, with her 19 years of being alive, was able to contain it, she owned him.
Now, yes, she was a plot device, but you're putting him up against people who have more plot devices than you can poke a homosexual stick at.
He will not win this under these circumstances.
plot divices are rediculous i mean one moment the bands of cytorrak can hold galactus and the next namor breaks them?!?!?! i mean i dont know why on earth they would let the spectre be defeated even for a second thats pretty dumb i mean even joker didnt defeat him with raw power but outsmarted him who is the spectres host these days? i mean if you can get rid of the host you yourself will become the spectre wont you? i dont think these guys can defeat the spectre i mean he defeated all the magic in DC what are these guys going to do?
Originally posted by long pig
P I S.He isn't capable of it without permission from God. He's only been shown to be able to do it out of PIS to make the Crisis story.
I mean, really...he was owned by Black Alice.
Who's to say that wasn't PIS. 🙂 Similar to Strange hiding from the Infinity Gauntlet.
The fact is, he's whoopin' everyone right about now.
Originally posted by long pigLike Dr Stange owned King Thor?
P I S.He isn't capable of it without permission from God. He's only been shown to be able to do it out of PIS to make the Crisis story.
I mean, really...he was owned by Black Alice.
Either way, he was not defeated and still has not been defeated.
Fact is, he's proved many times he can defeat gods with punches and flashes of light
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Difference.You're using ridiculous hearsay, and I have the comic where he says and shows he can do exactly what he said. 🙂
Which one? The one where he has trouble with Shazam, only won once he started absorbing his magic?
Proves what? That he can take beings above Shazam in power and magic (except Strange and Talisman)?
Shazam ain't Galactus level. The guy even borrows powers from other gods. Agamotto, Oshtur, and Hoggoth each around Galactus level and lend out magic.
Beating Shazam and a few low ranking Lords of Chaos and Order doesn't stack up against the Vishanti, Phoenix, and Rune Thor all at once.
Juntai quote:Either way, he was not defeated and still has not been defeated.
Fact is, he's proved many times he can defeat gods with punches and flashes of light
Which gods are we talking about again? Maybe you can name them. I can say gods as well: Thor, Kalibak, Loki, Orion.
Originally posted by Beyonder
Which one? The one where he has trouble with Shazam, only won once he started absorbing his magic?Proves what? That he can take beings above Shazam in power and magic (except Strange and Talisman)?
Shazam ain't Galactus level. The guy even borrows powers from other gods. Agamotto, Oshtur, and Hoggoth each around Galactus level and lend out magic.
Beating Shazam and a few low ranking Lords of Chaos and Order doesn't stack up against the Vishanti, Phoenix, and Rune Thor all at once.
Which gods are we talking about again? Maybe you can name them. I can say gods as well: Thor, Kalibak, Loki, Orion.
Koth-Shugoth an elder God from the previous universe, for example, who was going destroy the entire third dimension. A feat far above Loki, Kalibak, Thor and Orion could ever do.
He also defeated Anti Monitor.
Monsueir Stigmonus.
Azmodus.
Parallax.
He erased Darkseid from history, then remade him.
He's destroyed or recreated the universe many times.
Spectre clearly outranks the people named, save maybe Pheonix who has rarely if ever shown any combat power worthy of mention, even Professor X had shut down Pheonix with a simple mental attack..[They may both be aspects of god in a way, but Spectre's aspect is the aspect that fights and kills.]
Originally posted by Beyonder
Which one? The one where he has trouble with Shazam, only won once he started absorbing his magic?Proves what? That he can take beings above Shazam in power and magic (except Strange and Talisman)?
Shazam ain't Galactus level. The guy even borrows powers from other gods. Agamotto, Oshtur, and Hoggoth each around Galactus level and lend out magic.
Beating Shazam and a few low ranking Lords of Chaos and Order doesn't stack up against the Vishanti, Phoenix, and Rune Thor all at once.
Yup, the one where he said he can absorb magic from anything. Juntai did a fine example with the rest. He's even left the imps powerless right now and is running around unchecked. Permission or not, he's still the manifestation of God's wrath.