Why is rape wrong?

Treating someone as an object, with no regard for their wishes and invading them internally for self gratification is obviously morally and ethically wrong.

10 pages in and people still aren't getting it.

Whoever changed the title not only had no right to, but it's still actually not making any difference. Hence my point of not catering to stupid people.

-AC

Changing the title to what it is now is just going to make the problem of people not figuring it out worse.

Exactly, Lana. The logic must have been 'He meant this'. No, he meant what he wrote, clearly.

No need to change it at all. Changing the thread title for the sake of people who don't get it 10 pages in, is stupid.

-AC

The thread is about right and "wrong" ambiguously as subtext - I get it, but it also asks a question as is main thread, this doesn't take a genius to figure out.

Originally posted by Evil Genius
The thread is about right and "wrong" ambiguously as subtext - I get it, but it also asks a question as is main thread, this doesn't take a genius to figure out.

See what I mean. The thread question isn't "Why is rape wrong?". Some over-zealous mod changed it to that when that's not what the thread started meant.

The question is what MAKES it 'wrong'. Or any crime.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
See what I mean. The thread question isn't "Why is rape wrong?". Some over-zealous mod changed it to that when that's not what the thread started meant.

The question is what MAKES it 'wrong'. Or any crime.

-AC

You could argue the rules of the society
You could argue the disregard of the victims freewill
you could argue nothing from the rapists point of view
You could argue a myriad of other things

I think a number of answers given in this thread already do that adequately.

I'd like to ask you a question in response if I may.

What could make the act of rape right? and I do not mean if it was role playing etc. What could make the act of violent unconsential sex right?

Im seeing misinterpretations again ; I think VVD would have made it into a poll if he knew that people replied as Either Yes or No.

He also said he edited the first post, which i dont know what it contained. But anyway, i think its not far fetched to assume that the thread does beg an explanation to WHY and not just a simple 'Yes'.

I think what VVD meant was:

Rape is wrong, as many people are pointing out, cause its against someone's will. But on the other hand, we have free will and we decide what to do.

A man thinks that rape is good ; a woman thinks that rape is bad. Isnt that a differance of opinion ?

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I stand to be corrected.

Originally posted by Evil Genius
You could argue the rules of the society
You could argue the disregard of the victims freewill
you could argue nothing from the rapists point of view
You could argue a myriad of other things

I think a number of answers given in this thread already do that adequately.

I'd like to ask you a question in response if I may.

What could make the act of rape right? and I do not mean if it was role playing etc. What could make the act of violent unconsential sex right?

Only through flawed logic and reasoning could one come to the conclusion that rape is okay, as a result, they'd be wrong because their belief would be based on bad logic.

Originally posted by Evil Genius
You could argue the rules of the society
You could argue the disregard of the victims freewill
you could argue nothing from the rapists point of view
You could argue a myriad of other things

I think a number of answers given in this thread already do that adequately.

I'd like to ask you a question in response if I may.

What could make the act of rape right? and I do not mean if it was role playing etc. What could make the act of violent unconsential sex right?

No no no no no.

As has been said before.

Rape is simply the example used to be representative of what this thread is really about, which is what makes something wrong.

As has been explained numerous times throughout the thread, including by myself last night.

Originally posted by Lana
No no no no no.

As has been said before.

Rape is simply the example used to be representative of what this thread is really about, which is what makes something wrong.

As has been explained numerous times throughout the thread, including by myself last night.

And others have read and answered your reasoning like Backfire and Little Bitchiness

Originally posted by Evil Genius
And others have read and answered your reasoning like Backfire and Little Bitchiness

What Lana is saying is what the case is.

Originally posted by BackFire
Only through flawed logic and reasoning could one come to the conclusion that rape is okay, as a result, they'd be wrong because their belief would be based on bad logic.

I agree with you totally, some things are black and white

Backfire answered, Milla used his answer and also managed to misinterpret the thread purpose.

The thread title was changed when it needn't be changed, for the benefit of the idiots and people are still saying "What he meant was" and "Did you mean this?"

Read the thread. Just read it. If you still don't get it, you have no place in it.

-AC

Originally posted by Evil Genius
I agree with you totally, some things are black and white

I thought everything is in different shades of grey.

Originally posted by Evil Genius
I agree with you totally, some things are black and white

OK, well with one last-ditch attempt to get the thread back on topic-

If things are clearly black and white, can you logically and rationally prove that to be the case?

Proof, not likelihood.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
What Lana is saying is what the case is.

and as stated by myself and others there is no one answer to what makes something wrong.

Of course there is. Because it's wrong in the first place, so something must make it wrong.

Seriously...what's going on?

-AC

Originally posted by Evil Genius
and as stated by myself and others there is no one answer to what makes something wrong.

Then how can you confidently state that some things are black and white?

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
OK, well with one last-ditch attempt to get the thread back on topic-

If things are clearly black and white, can you logically and rationally prove that to be the case?

Proof, not likelihood.

Of course not its a purely subjective opinion based on my frame of reference although no less valid than your own or anyone elses because of this. You could argue when Laws were/ are created it is based on similar subjective reasoning. This does not change the fact for society to function some things have to be considered wrong. Its easiest when they are wrong.