Originally posted by Desaad
Haha, still interminably bitter about the embarassment you sufferred on ICT?
Nothing more.
Whatever, Jelly. You and I both know that Action 586 made Orion look considerably more impressive than Superman.
And Superman is on par with SOME versions of Darkseid, but certainly not all,
and your are quite the proponent of the in continuity explanation for his showing-to-showing discrepancies. So Superman's showings against one version of Darkseid mean nothing.
Since the in-continuity explanation for his showing to showing discrepancies are basically an in-continuity acknowledgment of the Way all characters, showings vary, but with this dynamic being an implicit function of his nature due to his archetypal nature relative even to the other characters of the DCU-- no one is referring to 'true form' Darkseid, obviously. Darkseid is 'less fictional' than the other DCU characters, that way the rules of the DCU are a function of his nature relative to to DCU denizens even as Batman's various portrayals
But nice try ignoring the fact that Superman is superior to Orion physically on average, and is a consistent physical rival with--if not superior to --Darkseid over the past decade.
Period.
well, this is an oldy but it still seems like a good match up. i'll be first to admit that i don't know majestic all that well (most i saw of him was in a bz smurph had where it was proven to me that maj was considerably beyond black bolt when i initially thought that would be a good match up.....) but orion is something different altogether. he's a friggin beast and not many heralds can take him for much more than a slim majority at best imo. i'm more than willing to change my stance though cuz maj seems pretty cool.... so, any new thoughts?
Nice bump. 👆
Anyway, Majestic wins. He's just as strong(if not moreso) than Orion, and much, much faster where battle speed is concerned... And his energy abilities are nothing to shake a stick at either.
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I'll post the same question here that I posted in another thread:
Anyone can answer this...
Speed feats for Orion that are on par with perceiving/reacting by the nanosecond, as Majestic has?
Strength feats for Orion that are on par with moving planets effortlessly, as Majestic has?
Energy feats for Orion that are comparable to transmuting the entirety of Jupiter instantly, and creating a duplicate Sun, as Majestic has?
Durability feats for Orion that are on par with tanking an earth-busting+ explosion?
When I see [all of] those, I'll believe Orion can hang. Until then, yeah, Majestic would win soundly.
Orion can keep up with super speedsters. His on panel fights with Supes prove that. Even a sun amped Supes he's had a tussle with. We also have him fighting and defeating insane Lightray! And we all know Lightray is the definitive speedster of the New Gods! Fighting in character, this is a close matchup. Maj has the speed advantage and maybe even in strength (debatable), but I believe Orion has the energy projection and versatility advantage. This is by no means a stomp.
Majestic has used his energy powers to [easily] alter the entire atomic makeup of Jupiter, and to [easily] create a duplicate Sun-- unless Orion does more than use the AF to fire small offensive blasts, like he does most times, I think they're pretty close in the energy output department. But yeah, the AF's output as a whole > Majestic's.
...But that is all inconsequential if Orion cannot compete with Majestic's battle speed(which, imo, is highly unlikely.)
Furthermore, if Maj gets his Kusar blades, (which he should), then the battle favors him even more.
Originally posted by the Darkoneall out Majestic brings creation engine blades and laughs at Orion's astroforce. Hell orion could bring omega effect and still do nothing as Majestic slices his head off.
Orion has more fighting exiperence and more raw power than Majestic, Majestic hasn't really fought anybody of Orion's calibur. I feel that orion would win in the end. Orion 7/10