Last Man Standing! Completely dark room

Originally posted by scotsmn
You mentioned the speed of bullets is above the speed of sound no? I can dig that post up for you as well if you like. You also mentioned those rifles can go twice the speed of sound. Speed of sound at 75degrees F is 774.97 mph. Double that is around 1500. Those assault weapons are popping bullets at over 1300mph and you have just been owned.

Dodging bullets? NAY! Being out of their path before they are fired? YAY! PWNZORED? YAAAAAAy!!!

He obviously isn't outrunning the bullets. He's moving to the side. You can run at me full tilt, say 10 mph, and I can move at 1 mph to the side and avoid you.

And, don't hurt yourself patting yourself on the back. Especially when you've just been shut down. 😆

Originally posted by Melnorme
He obviously isn't outrunning the bullets. He's moving to the side. You can run at me full tilt, say 10 mph, and I can move at 1 mph to the side and avoid you.

And, don't hurt yourself patting yourself on the back. Especially when you've just been shut down. 😆

I'm glad you admit your mistake 😄

Originally posted by scotsmn
I'm glad you admit your mistake 😄

I'm glad to see that you can lie to yourself so completely.

Oh, and for the record, that's still a straw man, I'm still right, you're still wrong, and Spider-Man would still probably win this. 😄

Originally posted by jinzin
and jrod.. the fight in the sewers was in the god damn pitchblack... there weren't exactly any lights down there.... if the artist drew black panals it would have made for a boring page...

Ok so i guess the girl coulld see in the pitch black too huh? 🙄

Originally posted by Melnorme
I'm glad to see that you can lie to yourself so completely.

Oh, and for the record, that's still a straw man, I'm still right, you're still wrong, and Spider-Man would still probably win this. 😄

Who is this straw man you keep talking about? 👽

You cannot face the fact that you are wrong. ❌

You stated Spiderman dodges bullets.
Spiderman does not dodge bullets.

What does spiderman do to not get hit then?
He senses a gun being pointed at him and moves before the gun is fired.

None of the scans you posted show him in the path of a traveling bullet, then not being in the path. He is not faster than the speed of sound.

You were flat out wrong. Admit it.. I won't gloat. Just own up to your mistake. 🙂

Originally posted by Melnorme
I'm glad to see that you can lie to yourself so completely.

Oh, and for the record, that's still a straw man, I'm still right, you're still wrong, and Spider-Man would still probably win this. 😄

😂
"i'm right... because I say so... and I never strawman..." 🙄

Originally posted by jrodslam
Ok so i guess the girl coulld see in the pitch black too huh? 🙄

that's not where sabretooth lured him to and you know it... they crashed through a wall to get to his lair which is where that is... 🤨

Originally posted by scotsmn
Who is this straw man you keep talking about? 👽

You cannot face the fact that you are wrong. ❌

You stated Spiderman dodges bullets.
Spiderman does not dodge bullets.

What does spiderman do to not get hit then?
He senses a gun being pointed at him and moves before the gun is fired.

None of the scans you posted show him in the path of a traveling bullet, then not being in the path. He is not faster than the speed of sound.

You were flat out wrong. Admit it.. I won't gloat. Just own up to your mistake. 🙂

✅

DAMMMMMMN scotsmn... spit that hot fire baby.

Originally posted by jinzin
that's not where sabretooth lured him to and you know it... they crashed through a wall to get to his lair which is where that is... 🤨

Well if you look at all the scans, which i know you have access to, youll see that when Sabertooth went to the sewers, which Daredevil was counting on, he stated that "many of the tunnels are pitch black."

However, the manhole was still open which lets some light in from the outside, so it still isnt COMPLETELY dark. Secondly, Sabertooth knew Daredevil's scent and waited behind a wall then jumped on him. He waited for DD's scent to get close. When they both finally exchanged blows, youd notice that Sabertooth swings wildly and never lays a hand on Daredevil in that exchange. Thats when Sabes gets punched through the wall. How do i know? Look at Daredevil's costume. No slashes in it save for the times when they were ABOVE the sewers and Daredevil recieved a slash in his back and on his left shoulder. 🙂

The last three will likely be Spidey, DD, and Sabes. Sabes will be @ a severe disadvantage because he can't really see in the dark. Spidey's got the Spidey sense and DD's got radar. DD will likely be using Cap's shield and he and Spidey will take turns striking Sabes. Sabes face will be webbed up and he will be unable to breathe. He'll also have to deal w/DD crushing his windpipe w/the club or the shield. He'll be getting holes punched in his stomach & back also. He'll eventually pass out or die. Probably one and then the other. Then Spidey overwhelms DD with his speed and KO's him. DD will be more tired than Spidey is due to Spidey's stamina being superhuman.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Well if you look at all the scans, which i know you have access to, youll see that when Sabertooth went to the sewers, which Daredevil was counting on, he stated that "many of the tunnels are pitch black."

However, the manhole was still open which lets some light in from the outside, so it still isnt COMPLETELY dark. Secondly, Sabertooth knew Daredevil's scent and waited behind a wall then jumped on him. He waited for DD's scent to get close. When they both finally exchanged blows, youd notice that Sabertooth swings wildly and never lays a hand on Daredevil in that exchange. Thats when Sabes gets punched through the wall. How do i know? Look at Daredevil's costume. No slashes in it save for the times when they were ABOVE the sewers and Daredevil recieved a slash in his back and on his left shoulder. 🙂

exactly where they fell into was pitch black, where they came from was an alley in the middle of the night.. there was no where near enough light to travel and adequatly light the area... none whatsoever... as for the rest. I'll have to look at the book again... i seem to remember dd getting tackled...

Originally posted by brainchild81
The last three will likely be Spidey, DD, and Sabes. Sabes will be @ a severe disadvantage because he can't really see in the dark. Spidey's got the Spidey sense and DD's got radar. DD will likely be using Cap's shield and he and Spidey will take turns striking Sabes. Sabes face will be webbed up and he will be unable to breathe. He'll also have to deal w/DD crushing his windpipe w/the club or the shield. He'll be getting holes punched in his stomach & back also. He'll eventually pass out or die. Probably one and then the other. Then Spidey overwhelms DD with his speed and KO's him. DD will be more tired than Spidey is due to Spidey's stamina being superhuman.

spidey sense isn't nearly on par with dd's radar sense.. ot even close..

he can't exactly see what he's webbing, so him webbing sabes in the face when there's multitudes of others in the room and he can't see what he's hitting is a grasp.

shooting webbing could actually work against him more than it could help here... he could just as easily run into his own webbing...

spiderman can't do ANYTHING physically to sabretooth to put hi down.. neither can dd.... even if sabretooth was wildly slashing about (not that he would being the stalker he is) he'd still be more likely to come out of this on top.. but I think everyone's assuming he's just some dumbass wildman here.... he's not... people need to realize this is his element...

Yes he is(I kid) If Spidey can send a punch straight to Wolvies face w/the Spidey sense. Why not webs to Sabes? Spidey is a damn good shot w/that s*it. The rest of the cats in the room are already dead or KOed. Sabes can still have organs removed too. Is his skin way more durable than I think it is? Spidey sense is better in some ways than DD's radar. DD's radar is better in some ways than Spidey sense. You have any proof that Spidey can't kill Sabes? Spidey ever tried to before?

Originally posted by jinzin
exactly where they fell into was pitch black, where they came from was an alley in the middle of the night.. there was no where near enough light to travel and adequatly light the area... none whatsoever... as for the rest. I'll have to look at the book again... i seem to remember dd getting tackled...

Actually, the man-hole wasnt in the alley. It was in the street. They were in the alley, then Sabes speard DD into the side-walk where to old couple was walking. After getting the combo from DD, Sabes was then punched into the street where he then went in the sewers. Sabes has cat-like vision. He wouldnt be able to see in the complete darkness.

Originally posted by jinzin
spidey sense isn't nearly on par with dd's radar sense.. ot even close..

he can't exactly see what he's webbing, so him webbing sabes in the face when there's multitudes of others in the room and he can't see what he's hitting is a grasp.

shooting webbing could actually work against him more than it could help here... he could just as easily run into his own webbing...

spiderman can't do ANYTHING physically to sabretooth to put hi down.. neither can dd.... even if sabretooth was wildly slashing about (not that he would being the stalker he is) he'd still be more likely to come out of this on top.. but I think everyone's assuming he's just some dumbass wildman here.... he's not... people need to realize this is his element...

I agree with the Spiderman part. However, Batman and Daredevil are both capable of seeing in complete darkness and i do believe they can take down Sabes together.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Yes he is😆 If Spidey can send a punch straight to Wolvies face w/the Spidey sense. Why not webs to Sabes? Spidey is a damn good shot w/that s*it. Sabes can still have organs removed too. Is his skin way more durable than I think it is? Spidey sense is better in some ways than DD's radar. DD's radar is better in some ways than Spidey sense. You have any proof that Spidey can't kill Sabes? Spidey ever tried to before?

Originally posted by jinzin
organs removed? if anyone's getting that close to sabretooth they're already as good as dead.. as for spidey hitting logan in the face, that's a good deal different than hitting someone with webs...

Originally posted by jrodslam
Actually, the man-hole wasnt in the alley. It was in the street. They were in the alley, then Sabes speard DD into the side-walk where to old couple was walking. After getting the combo from DD, Sabes was then punched into the street where he then went in the sewers. Sabes has cat-like vision. He wouldnt be able to see in the complete darkness.

Originally posted by jrodslam
I agree with the Spiderman part. However, Batman and Daredevil are both capable of seeing in complete darkness and i do believe they can take down Sabes together.

Originally posted by brainchild81
How exactly? And Spidey's not as good as dead. Sabes won't be able to get a fix on him.

how? cause fighting someone hand tohand is a lot different than hitting them with a projectile.... hell even I can put up a decent scrap blindfolded... but I doubt I could hit anyone with a dodgball using the same meathod...

and yeah, he's as good as dead. sabretooth's faster and is almost guaranteed a one hit kill or KO. not to mention, spider's spider sense will be going crazy due to the fact that it's not just him and sabes in the the room but a contorium of other heroes and the like.

Originally posted by jinzin
how? cause fighting someone hand tohand is a lot different than hitting them with a projectile.... hell even I can put up a decent scrap blindfolded... but I doubt I could hit anyone with a dodgball using the same meathod...

and yeah, he's as good as dead. sabretooth's faster and is almost guaranteed a one hit kill or KO. not to mention, spider's spider sense will be going crazy due to the fact that it's not just him and sabes in the the room but a contorium of other heroes and the like.

Originally posted by brainchild81
The others are dead or KOed.

everyone has a best case scenario here but it's ot what's most likely to happen.. in fact batman gassing the whole room is more probable.

Originally posted by brainchild81
I doubt if Sabes is faster, but even if he is,

Originally posted by brainchild81
Spidey's dodging his attacks before he even throws 'em

Originally posted by brainchild81
and Sabes can't see

Originally posted by brainchild81
The chances of him landing an attack are very low.

yet they're still higher than that of spiderman being able to incapacitate sabes before he lands a blow...

Originally posted by brainchild81
Spidey's a surgeon with those things.

when he can see..

Originally posted by brainchild81
If he can land a punch, why can't he just stop short and use webs instead?

Originally posted by jinzin
dude look at that book again.. one there are no street lights on that street, two there's no indication that was a street could've been another alley.... i mean there's no street lamps or anything... three it's indicated that sabretooth had been in the sewers for some duration trying to throw dd off... dd claimed those tunnels were pitch black.. it WAS COMPLETELY DARK...

There are no street lights on that street? So the old couple that they ran into was just walking in a alley? Its clear that they ran went out into the sidewalk hence the old couple and fire hydrant. Secondly, Sabertooth was trying to throw DD off, but DD was right on his trail the whole time. Hince Sabertooth saying "I cant shake him.". Also DD stated that many of the tunnels were pitch black. Not all. Theres a difference. So no it wasnt completely black. Just very dark. Just for arguements sake, les say they all were completely dark, Sabertooth couldnt even lay a hand on DD.