ROTJ Vader and Luke versus Dooku

uh Glentract, you still have yet to consider the GL sourced fact I have provided (It appears that i misinterpreted the second one, Anakin HAD THE POTENTIAL of becoming 200% of Sidious, my bad). I have also given you a possible place to find it.

I don't have the ROTJ DVD to check. Can someone(other then Janus since he seems to be hunting me) confirm this?

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
What's up your ass? Your freaking out over my beliefs.

You're parading them around as fact, coupled with some of the most skewed logic I have ever seen on KMC.

I'm not uppity over this, I'm horribly amused. You couldn't be more wrong in this instance, Glentract.

I heard Ush say it before. I pmed him, asking whether this is true.

Originally posted by jollyjim311
Okay, what are your arguments?

I find it cute that when you're online, this guy is your little tagalong girlfriend, Glentract. But as soon as you log off and he's on, he's suddenly just another guy.

Originally posted by OBI-Ninja
uh Glentract, you still have yet to consider the GL sourced fact I have provided (It appears that i misinterpreted the second one, Anakin HAD THE POTENTIAL of becoming 200% of Sidious, my bad). I have also given you a possible place to find it.

Assuming the quote is true, what is the problem with Anakin having double Obi-wan's potential?

Anakin has recognized less of his potential then Obi-wan, so Obi-wan can still be better than him.

Originally posted by Ianus
I find it cute that when you're online, this guy is your little tagalong girlfriend, Glentract. But as soon as you log off and he's on, he's suddenly just another guy.

Are you assuming he's a sock? Ask the mods, they will confirm for you were two different people.

I never said Anything about Anakin doubling Obi-Wan's potential. where are u getting that from?

And you pretty much take the 80% thing, turn it to stone, and randomly assume, 'this guy is this much percent of that guy, therefore this guy owns the other guy"

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Are you assuming he's a sock? Ask the mods, they will confirm for you were two different people.

Sorry, double Sidious' potential. My point remains. Obi-wan has used more of his potential by this point.

true, but Luke as of ROTJ has hardly discovered any of his potential.

Originally posted by Ianus
No, actually I was commenting on how he's a total suck up to you and is in your corner no matter the fight, but when you're not around he's more mild and less .... annoying.

And your problem with me? I have no problem(nor knowledge, since I only know what he's like when I'm here) but also no power over something you don't like. He can do what he likes; if you think he's annoying, thats to bad, I personally consider him an ok guy.

Originally posted by OBI-Ninja
true, but Luke as of ROTJ has hardly discovered any of his potential.

Yes he has, in fact. Remember that he also has the Kaiburr crystal, making him more powerful than he normally would be.

It's also like when a little kid and an adult try ot learn the same thing. The adult will get it much better then the kid. Luke has an advantage in his amount of training he has had while at a higher mental level.

Ok, but I fail to see how Vader and Luke make a better team than Obi-Wan and Anakin. Obi-Wan and Anakin were said to be the one of the most cohesive teams ever. They were considered the two heroes of the clone wars. Luke may have power and potential, and that crystal but he has little experience and training. Obi-Wan and Anakin, on the other hand, have over a decade's experience working with each other, and know each other extremely well. Luke and Vader at this point were still 'enemies' and I fail to see them having any cohesion whatsoever. Vader is slow and robotic, Luke was rather unprofessional and clumsy. Add that to the fact that they don't know each other too well at this point, you really don't have a very good team.

They use the same form and fight in the same way, which works to their advantage because they would know what each other would do.

The thing is that Vader and Luke are enough more powerful than Anakin and Obi-wan that they don't need to form the perfect team to defeat him.

How exactly are Vader and Luke more powerful than Obi-Wan and Anakin? I have already said that OT Vader is weaker than ROTS Anakin and it is a universally recognized fact from GL! And by watching the movies, I really don't see Luke or Vader near Dooku's level in terms of lightsaber skills.

This is ridiculous. . .

I agree. Glentract, you are the biggest Luke fanboy. Tonight proves it.

Hey, what does Luke say when Dooku is saber-raping him?

Lmfao!

Originally posted by OBI-Ninja
How exactly are Vader and Luke more powerful than Obi-Wan and Anakin? I have already said that OT Vader is weaker than ROTS Anakin and it is a universally recognized fact from GL! And by watching the movies, I really don't see Luke or Vader near Dooku's level in terms of lightsaber skills.

That quote comes from you alone, no one has confirmed it.

Thing is that it was the technology avaliable back when the OT was made makes them look like they did. If GL says they are better, then they are because that is how the movies were meant to be, not the way they are(which was because of things GL couldn't control).