Ah . . . Count Dooku has this.
Count Dooku is the greatest practitioner of Makashi that we have seen. He excells in saber-to-saber dueling. Thusly, in an environment where there is nothing to utilize, save for the open ground, how can two only above average duelists, who have not had any experience where they cooperate, hope to take on such an extremely refined and skilled duelist on Dooku's level?
Vader, as we've seen per Empire Strikes Back, is like his master in that, he is very skilled in manipulating the environment, as he threw those large cannisters at Luke during their duel on Cloud City. But he has nothing to utilize here. While Vader is physically far stronger than the Count, he is no where near as quick or precise. For every single blow of Vader's, I'm wagering Dooku can respond in three or more.
Darth Vader is credited with having 80% of Palpatine's Force powers. Dooku is at least 90% himself, so not only is he the superior duelist, but the superior Force user. Vader can't produce Sith lightning, nor can he deflect it, as his fiasco with Sidious has shown. His only real Force power is the grip, but what will that do? Would it even work on Dooku? I doubt it.
Luke only manages to overcome Vader when he unleashes his full fury on the Dark Lord, and that only happened because Vader threatened Leia. Dooku has no knowledge of Leia, and is not in any reasonable position to cause Luke to get that furious. Even then, he'd mess up like his father, and make a brash decision.
Combine this with Luke and Vader's lack of experience in teamwork, you have two dead Skywalkers. Neither alone - nor even combined as a team - are a match for Dooku.
dookus lightning can mess vaders life support up the second he can get a shot in, and with how slow vader is it shouldnt be too hard. he can hold out long enough to position the two of them so their in eachothers way, force push vader so that he either lowers his saber and pushes back, or is taken back by the push, then give him as much lightning as possible before luke gets close enough to be a danger. take him out with superior saber skills and far superior force mastery. then vader is either already out of it, or just holding on. shouldnt be too hard for the count to take vader one on one, and hes weakened from lightning. dooku is just too great a force user and too skillful a duelist.
Originally posted by Ianus
I find it cute that when you're online, this guy is your little tagalong girlfriend, Glentract. But as soon as you log off and he's on, he's suddenly just another guy.
No, I didn't have time to write much of anything, I was in keyboarding class. What I meant by my previous post was just that I was sure you had good arguments, and you hadn't posted them, you had only shot down Glentracts until that point. Nothing more or less. You seem really offensive.
Originally posted by jollyjim311
No, I didn't have time to write much of anything, I was in keyboarding class. What I meant by my previous post was just that I was sure you had good arguments, and you hadn't posted them, you had only shot down Glentracts until that point. Nothing more or less. You seem really offensive.
You're right, I was overboard. I apologize. I was in a bad temper that day.