Originally posted by GalacticStorm
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😱Calm down people im back. (Well just for today)
I have uni deadlines at around Xmas time so i had to take a weeks break to get on top of things. Nothing sinister or untoward about it. Thanks for the concern though. 🙂
Now back to the topic at hand.
Theres been somewhat of a misunderstanding it seems when reading the latest issue of Fantastic Four.
Basically what you found out in #532 is that the reason life exists in the universe is because Eternity the embodiment of the universe asked the questions why and how does life exist in an effort to gain some understanding about his own existence:
This was an action which caused the engines of creation to ignite. A spark that set off the Big Bang, the energies of creation which was stated a few issues previously to be a manifestation of the Phoenix Force:
This energies of creation viewpoint has been stated in F4 before:
As you can see from the scans above all this talk of Reed and the entity creating the universe is a load of rubbish. A misinterpretation. It makes the point clear that all humanity, all life are as much a part of the universe as the stars. The Big Bang the release of Eternity from the cosmic egg was initiated by Eternitys questions on existence therefore Reed and co had a part in it due to the fact that they are the universe or at least a part of it. That point is made quite clear in the early creation scenes ive posted where it states "we (while showing a scene of early humanity) are as much a part of the universe as the stars" KG you took it too literally it appears. The entity and Reed went back to the pre-616 void and asked for the meaning of existence and they were shown it. In my opinion Illadelph was correct with his thought equals existence comments which as he said stem from quantam theory.
We've been told before that Eternity along with Galactus are birthed from the cosmic egg "laid" by Phoenix lol (X-men Forever #6,X-men Adventures 12 , Official Handbook of F4 2005). In my opinion when Eternity came to sentience his questions on existence were like a signal for the new creation. Hence the big bang which is as far as i know is still a manifestation of Phoenix. Nothing was said to change that fact.
I dont see how anythings changed really. The Big bang which was stated in the very same title a few months prior to be Phoenixes energies hasnt been retconned we just know that theres a reason/schedule for the Big Bang every creation cycle. Phoenix creating Eternity hasnt been retconned there was no mention of that. But whats been included is that there is a reason for the Big Bang.
The new retconn seems to dispute this.
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
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Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Ive had loads of uni work to do. Im not gonn abe on for much longer but i'll be back regular again in a few weeks.Dont believe this rubbish read my first post on this thread or better still buy F4 532.
Or "Reed" - "The Cosmic rays that were birthed when you joined with me" in this pic here
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Or "Reed" - "The Cosmic rays that were birthed when you joined with me" in this pic here
The comic made a point that Reed, the Entity and all life are as much a part of the universe as the stars and that the reason there is life is because the universe is trying to understand its own existence. Therefore Reed and the Entity went to the void before 616 and questioned existence therefore sparking off existence in the exact same way, which they could do because as the comic stated they along with the rest of humanity/life in creation ARE the universe.
We cool?
Read the comic
Down with hearsay 😄
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The comic made a point that Reed, the Entity and all life are as much a part of the universe as the stars and that the reason there is life is because the universe is trying to understand its own existence. Therefore Reed and the Entity went to the void before 616 and questioned existence therefore sparking off existence in the exact same way, which they could do because as the comic stated they along with the rest of humanity/life in creation ARE the universe.We cool?
Read the comic
Down with hearsay 😄
Here is the Rabbit and Reed creating the Universe - clearly shown - props to KgKg for the scan