Originally posted by IKC
Darthsith, how are they all going to attack him at once?
lmao, thats what i was wondering. Heres my plan. Yoda goes first one-on-one. He'll tire Exar. Either Exar kills him or Yoda kills exar. IF Yoda loses to Exar Kun, he'd be tired as hell. ROTS Anakin and ROTS Obi-Wan go in together. IF Exar manages to get through em, mace kills him next.
Well Obi and Anakin could team up on him while the rest of the council uses force attacks. Once Obi or Anakin die then Mace will step in while the rest of the council continues to screw up Exar with the force. I say if they start off in Melee then the council wins, otherwise, Exars force powers take out a few Jedi and then he finishes the rest off.
Originally posted by jollyjim311
Well Obi and Anakin could team up on him while the rest of the council uses force attacks. Once Obi or Anakin die then Mace will step in while the rest of the council continues to screw up Exar with the force. I say if they start off in Melee then the council wins, otherwise, Exars force powers take out a few Jedi and then he finishes the rest off.
Obi Wan and Anakin will last seconds. The entire council is nowhere near Exar's level in the force or his lightsabre abilities.
How will Yoda, Mace and co. screw Kun with the force? Kun was so attuned with the darkside that the very ground beneath his feat shook with his presence.
Kun wins this with ease.
Originally posted by jollyjim311
Well Obi and Anakin could team up on him while the rest of the council uses force attacks. Once Obi or Anakin die then Mace will step in while the rest of the council continues to screw up Exar with the force. I say if they start off in Melee then the council wins, otherwise, Exars force powers take out a few Jedi and then he finishes the rest off.
I'd like you to point out for me the one instance anyone on the council has displayed an offensive Force power good enough to kill a Sith Lord.
Let me see...
Kun has some great amount of force powers and I'm pretty sure he can outduel most of the Council quiet easily. I guess he will simply destroy the "minor" characters with force powers only.
BUT
We have seen that powerful force users are capable of resisting Sith magic (Vodo resisted Kun's freezing spell in the Senate) and most people in the PT Council aren't exactly "weak" when it comes to force powers (at least they somehow managed to survive three years of war).
Therefore I guess Kun would probably still have to deal with Mace, Yoda, Anakin and Obi-Wan at least.
Now let's see what we have:
Yoda who can be seen as Vodo's equal although I guess he might have better chances against Kun compared to Vodo seeing that he will use a lightsaber where Vodo used a walking stick. Since I don't believe that you can handle a walking stick in an "agressive" way (well...you wouldn't do much damage with that kind of stuff) I have to say that I think that Vodo was pretty much pushed into defence in his last fight with Kun. That won't happen to Yoda.
Then we have Mace who is a lightsaber prodigy by any means. I'm pretty sure he can give Exar some trouble when it comes to sheer duelling skill. I know that Exar created his own style that only him and Ulic knew about but on the other handside the same thing can be said about Mace (who is the only person able to use Vaapad in ROTS times).
And we have Obi-Wan and Anakin. I don't think that they are anywhere near Kun when it comes to handling a lightsaber but Obi-Wan had encountered (and bested) a person handling a double-bladed lightsaber when he was a Padawan and during the Anakin vs Obi-Wan duel in ROTS we have seen that both can handle their weapons very good (and fast) when they have to.
I don't think that Exar is able to simply "waste" those people and while I guess he might be able to win at the end the Jedi might be able to tire and finally kill him (by any mean...fighting Obi-Wan, Anakin, Mace and Yoda is not what I would call "easy" at all).
There's an inaccuracy, Nai. None of the Jedi were affected by Kun's freeze spell, he only performed it on the non-force users on the Senate. The numerous Jedi present Kun pretty much ignored.
Besides that, Vodo wasn't present when he cast the spell. However, we've established that Vodo is greater than Yoda, considering he was powerful enough to make his walking stick more powerful than a lightsaber. Honestly, someone that can slap around Vodo isn't going to be troubled with Yoda.
The trouble for the Council is that they can't all attack Kun at once. From what I understand, Mace and Yoda's styles both need quite a lot of room to be effective. They'll end up getting in each other's way if they attack at once. I'd say Kun takes this with an 80% chance of victory.
Exar would do a Sidious on the Council (despite being much more powerfful than Sidious) . Only Mace, Yoda, Obi-Wan and probably Anakin would probably be able to hold him back at first, then it'd just be touch of go probably. I think Kun would win *repeats what veryone else said about kicking jedi master arse* yeah...Kun.
How can we conclude that because someone hones a powerful Force ability, they are instantly greater? So Vodo could make his walking stick formidable, that doesn't add to his dueling skills. Yes, he was a lightsaber grandmaster and centuries old, but we have no ground on whether or not to consider him better or worse than Yoda. Bastila can change the course of entire battles, both between armies and fleets, yet she is no saber god, so we can't make that assumption about Vodo against Yoda.
You seem to forget that Vodo was the Grandmaster of the entire Order as well, and that Yoda displays no feats on Vodo's level. Indeed, PT Jedi are commonly believed to be inferior to Jedi at the time of the Sith War. The fact that he is considered also the lightsaber Grandmaster, yet uses a walking stick, is even more impressive. Vodo would beat Yoda, I say with all confidence.