Originally posted by cheldon
we can't leave now. the terrorists would rise to power
So the who should rise to power ? "You" ?
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[*]Between 27354 and 30863 civilians have died since the 2003 invasion.
[*]30% of civilian deaths occurred during the invasion phase before 1 May 2003.
[*]US-led forces killed 37% of civilian victims.
[*]Anti-occupation forces/insurgents killed 9% of civilian victims.
[*]Post-invasion criminal violence accounted for 36% of all deaths.
[*]Killings by anti-occupation forces, crime and unknown agents have shown a steady rise over the entire period.
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Before the war there was a strong government; strong security. There were a lot of police on the streets and no illegal weapons. Now there are few controls, a lot of crime, revenge killings, so much violence.
Under Saddam, there was order in Iraq. Under the US occupation there is Chaos and so much civilian death. Iraqis are finding it hard to earn a living. These kidnappings that you see, arent really terrorists. Most of them are done for ransom cause there is no money.
I find it ironic that Saddam is being tried for Civilian killings in Dujail and Halabdja, when under US occupation those civilian deaths are dwarfed by the greatest American Blunder in 'freeing' people.
I was saying that under Saddam there was a form of order.
The wok over there took it as if i condone his actions. HE DIDNT EVEN read the post twice and automatically dismissed it as the stupidest post on KMC. (at least not the internet). Clearly he misunderstood.
Better that many die so he is removed from power so that future generations are better off. Have faith in coalition and be rewarded.
Knock knock; Saddam is not in power any longer....since......2 years. Where do you live ? Do you read news ? Do you know he was captured a looooong time ago.
As long as its not happening in your country, you feel that comment was appropriate. Do you really think that US cares about the Iraqis ? No. The negotiation of Iraq's reserves. Yes. More like it.
Originally posted by GCG
I was saying that under Saddam there was a form of order.The wok over there took it as if i condone his actions. HE DIDNT EVEN read the post twice and automatically dismissed it as the stupidest post on KMC. (at least not the internet). Clearly he misunderstood.
As long as its not happening in your country, you feel that comment was appropriate. Do you really think that US cares about the Iraqis ? No. The negotiation of Iraq's reserves. Yes. More like it.
Originally posted by grey fox
Shoot the ****er.....better yet make him run over some claymore mines. That should just about do it (oh and make sure these miens dont kill him outright , just leave him their oozing all over the floor when his wounds get infected and he dies a horrible pain filled death)
If you believe a human deserves this kind of treatment then you're no different to Saddam.
-AC
I'm against the death penalty for anyone so also against this one.
Now all that stuff about the 'war' on terror and ending it => LOL, Fat chance. Seriously anyone who thinks that 'war' can be won is dreaming
There will always be people who consider themselves to oppressed or wronged by some state or another. Terrorism is here to stay.
You know, some of the people in here simply boggle the mind with their stupidity....I was trying to avoid this thread altogether but Fire told me to read it 😛
The war on terror is a joke. You cannot 'war' on a state of mind. You cannot 'destroy' terrorism, and our war on Iraq is NOT going to stop or even diminish the amount of terrorism. More likely it will increase it.
As much as he deserves to die, executing him might be far from wise. First of all, resolving to killing him is a solution from the same manner of thinking and acting as the terrorists uphold. Doing so will only justify death as a means to them, as they live more by the eye for an eye code.
Keeping him alive but imprisoned shows a more civilised solution, hopefully putting us above them. Simultaniously one of their main peons turns in to a prime example of their venerability as he is kept caged.
But I'm just speculating on how the end of Saddam would affect the terrorist society. I can't tell for sure how they will react on any outcome of his trial. Unhappy with all of the possibilities, I guess.
My main concern is that we have high-ranked and powerful political extremists on both sides here, who act vigorously on economic and/or religious motivations, while the innocent population on both sides bite the bullets as the 'great leaders' sit in their bombshelters.
Originally posted by GCG
Thats not directed at you. I am refering to the wok666 who said that saddam has yet to be removed from power so therfore he considers the deaths of Iraqi civilians still expendable under the coalition occupation.And then dismissed my post as stupid ? 😬
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
If you believe a human deserves this kind of treatment then you're no different to Saddam.-AC
Originally posted by Lana
You know, some of the people in here simply boggle the mind with their stupidity....I was trying to avoid this thread altogether but Fire told me to read it 😛The war on terror is a joke. You cannot 'war' on a state of mind. You cannot 'destroy' terrorism, and our war on Iraq is NOT going to stop or even diminish the amount of terrorism. More likely it will increase it.