Anyone here ever read Asimov? The real way to get rid of him would be to make him work for you. Take away his ability to be a symbol. Killing him would make him a martyr; imprisoning him creates the possibility of escape, thus leading to him possible creating another army. If the US or any of their allies could get him to cooperate and help Iraq, there goes the figure of the old Iraq.
Originally posted by grey fox
Shoot the ****er.....better yet make him run over some claymore mines. That should just about do it (oh and make sure these miens dont kill him outright , just leave him their oozing all over the floor when his wounds get infected and he dies a horrible pain filled death)
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Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
If you believe a human deserves this kind of treatment then you're no different to Saddam.-AC
Then he doesnt deserve to die for all his crimes? Funny that. How come Its ok to execute murderers in the USA, but when its a war criminal whos commited genocide its not ok? I'm boggled with the stupidity....
You totally missed the point. He inflicted it on others, if we were to do it to him WE'D be inflicting it on others. Making us no better than he.
I don't believe in the death penalty. I honestly believe that were he to be executed it would cause more problems than if he was to be imprisoned for life.
Originally posted by Imagawa666
Then he doesnt deserve to die for all his crimes? Funny that. How come Its ok to execute murderers in the USA, but when its a war criminal whos commited genocide its not ok? I'm boggled with the stupidity....
Read my post again.
BackFire, it does quite clearly make a difference. Him becoming a martyr or him not becoming one.
-AC
Originally posted by crazylozer
Anyone here ever read Asimov? The real way to get rid of him would be to make him work for you. Take away his ability to be a symbol. Killing him would make him a martyr; imprisoning him creates the possibility of escape, thus leading to him possible creating another army. If the US or any of their allies could get him to cooperate and help Iraq, there goes the figure of the old Iraq.
Originally posted by crazylozer
Anyone here ever read Asimov? The real way to get rid of him would be to make him work for you. Take away his ability to be a symbol. Killing him would make him a martyr; imprisoning him creates the possibility of escape, thus leading to him possible creating another army. If the US or any of their allies could get him to cooperate and help Iraq, there goes the figure of the old Iraq.
I wish your observation was strictly Asimov. But it isn't that Asimov wrote his novels based on what he saw, it's that he wrote them based on what was going on around him...not what he envisioned in political futures..
Originally posted by BackFire
Don't care. Kill him right now, throw him in prison and let him live 60 years behind bars. Makes no difference.
you know, Hess lived to be 93. You're right though, his existance outside of prision matters little. Sure, his lawyers have been killed, but that can be changed.
Originally posted by Trickster
I don't think he should be executed. Not publicly. As people have said, it creates a martyr - but also it makes America look worse than it does already. And if he's not, they'll be accused of cowardice. Hopefully, at least for the US and Britain, he'll commit suicide.
Publically...not at all
He should die a slow death...withering away in a state of total humiliation.
But, does he deserve it, based on the fact that America created his entire regime?
This man has been finger ****ed as hard as the tobacco companies...
Originally posted by Inspectah Deck
On CNN da other day, they were talking about if Saddam was executed, how it would effect Iraq. Should he?
He would become a martyr for every western hating person. Execution of a leader such as Saddam or bin Laden and hoping for 'greater good' is ridiculous for numerous reasons.
a) The whole irony of ''you are a murderer and a bad guy, and we are not murderers and good guys, so we're gonna show you justice in our west by murdering you''
b) Anyone who has anything against west, will support Saddam - not because they agree with what he did, but simply because they are sharing an enemy.
Very stupid idea.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
He would become a martyr for every western hating person. Execution of a leader such as Saddam or bin Laden and hoping for 'greater good' is ridiculous for numerous reasons.a) The whole irony of ''you are a murderer and a bad guy, and we are not murderers and good guys, so we're gonna show you justice in our west by murdering you''
b) Anyone who has anything against west, will support Saddam - not because they agree with what he did, but simply because they are sharing an enemy.
Very stupid idea.
I agree, but I also think that this very arrogant and plain stupid American politicians should leave the rest of the world alone - how would they feel if the rest of the world tries to rule them?
Originally posted by BackFire
Not to me it doesn't, I couldn't care less.
Refusing to acknowledge the difference and there not being one are two different things.
Originally posted by Wonderer
[B]I agree, but I also think that this very arrogant and plain stupid American politicians should leave the rest of the world alone - how would they feel if the rest of the world tries to rule them?[b]
In an ideal world you'd be right. We don't, never have and never will have an ideal world, though.
So it's all fine and dandy going Walt Disney about it, but this isn't the way the world works.
-AC
They shouldn't Execute him, dont get me wrong, I'm all for death penalty and all, but a man like Saddam Hussain has a lot of power and killing him will make him seem even more powerful, IE as was said before a Martyr.
Doing that will send the wrong message to his followers, this will lead them to think that the only way they could take away Saddam's power is to kill him.
Leave him in prision, will push his status to that of a regular man, So the legend of him will diminish. He cant do any more wrong while in prison.
Reading a lot of these posts, and thinking about the trial lately, I can't say that he doesn't deserve death. However, who am I to say he needs to die? That is not a place I should go....not for me to decide.
He has done nothing to me personally. I have not been personally affected, nor have any of my loved ones, by his being once ruler of Iraq.
That being said, I think the best way for him to go is to be silenced...lock him up for life to make the fallout from the trial as quiet as possible, globally speaking.
Yeah, it might be nice every now and then to see him scrubbing toilets in prison, or serving food to fellow inmates....duties a man of royalty would find so deplorable and humiliating. 😆