Character Ownage

Originally posted by iceman24567
Are you saying Pete knew what the sigils were and how they would respond to him pushing Juggs with no proof? 😆. Pete hopped out the portal and starting pushing him back almost immediately back toward the path he walked that much is obvious to the dumb and deaf

Wrong they were tussling for a while, they were thrown off the path because there was a building in one and they went right through it. How could there have been a standing building on Kruuth's original path? How would that make sense?
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/9235525/Uncanny_X-Men_543_0012.jpg.html

Originally posted by iceman24567
A cripple with unstoppability/immortality given to him by a near omnipotent being indeed.

A cripple that survived a blast that would have killed the Serpent's henchman and kept right on walking as if nothing happened. A cripple that was still standing after his opponent's master chickened out and TPed his slave away to save his life.

Originally posted by zopzop
Wrong they were tussling for a while, they were thrown off the path because there was a building in one and they went right through it. How could there have been a standing building on Kruuth's original path? How would that make sense?
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/9235525/Uncanny_X-Men_543_0012.jpg.html

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Apparently a fair bit as he was breaking bones Colossus' with his punches.

Perhaps the implication is that this was always happening with Cain and he simply didn't care but I can't say for certain.

if it's true it's a BIG implication.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Which is my point there are times to fight and times to run not running when you should isn't what a leader does...The whole fight or flight thing is based on circumstances.

And I think Cyclops is right not to abandon Utopia at this time.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Ok correct a building obviously couldn't have been in the way but again where is your proof that he planned to push him back and blow him up. Magik didn't explain the sigils affects to him. You have no proof that he pushed him back to try and kill Kuurth.

What possible reason then would Colossus have to push Kruuth back on the EXACT same path that he took on his march to San Fran, especially since as they were fighting, they went off said path?

colossus didnt recieve all the power cyttorak gave classic juggernaut

Based on?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Based on?

and iyo thor is stronger than kuurth who hurt colossus
which would mean you think thor could physical damage classic juggs like that with physical punches

Originally posted by zopzop
A cripple that survived a blast that would have killed the Serpent's henchman and kept right on walking as if nothing happened. A cripple that was still standing after his opponent's master chickened out and TPed his slave away to save his life.

Originally posted by zopzop
What possible reason then would Colossus have to push Kruuth back on the EXACT same path that he took on his march to San Fran, especially since as they were fighting, they went off said path?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
his helmet was dented, he was hurt like classic juggs never was, plus he isnt evil

His moral code has already taken a huge dip. And classic juggernaut was rarely "evil" himself.

Originally posted by -Pr-
His moral code has already taken a huge dip. And classic juggernaut was rarely "evil" himself.

kuurth fist>goblast?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
so you think colossus can now tank a godblast like classic juggs?

i don't know. i'm just saying that his power level at the moment is largely vague. that is of course unless you consider he was made the juggernaut by cyttorak. taking that literally, Colossus would have all the powers the original Juggernaut had. Maybe it'll be cleared up in future issues; who knows.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
his helmet was dented,

Similar and worse has happened to classic Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
he was hurt like classic juggs never was,

Classic Juggernaut has never had his bones broken as far as I know but he has been hurt, battered and bruised.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
plus he isnt evil

He certainly isn't good. Colossus is intoxicated with causing destruction and damage which as was made clear in this arc, is all that Cytorrak cares about. Besids, Cain was never exactly Darkseid either.

Anyways, the clear implication is that he was given the full power of the Juggernaut:

If you think otherwise, the burden is on you to prove it.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
so you think colossus can now tank a godblast like classic juggs?

kuurth fist>goblast?

Classic Juggernaut never actually tanked the God Blast. He had his force field on.

And stop pretending like that scene is the benchmark for Cain. It's arguably his best showing ever. I'm not going to start pretending that anyone who hurts Thor packs more powerful than the Silver Surfer.

It could be explained that all Cy did was take the power Juggs currently had on him and gave it to Colossus, which seeing as what Juggs was using, it was a bit depowered.
Ignoring the WWH tie in of course, just like recent comics have.

Or then again, it doesn't matter to me, as this Colossus is no where near what he was billed up to be. 👆

I just hope they depower him soon.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I just hope they depower him soon.

I agree. This was an interesting turn of events and Peter's mindset is definitely intriguing -while disturbing- but eventually I hope he returns to his old self.

Of course according to some true Colossus fans we're the equivalent of haters and he needs this power up. Or something.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I agree. This was an interesting turn of events and Peter's mindset is definitely intriguing -while disturbing- but eventually I hope he returns to his old self.

Of course according to some true Colossus fans we're the equivalent of haters and he needs this power up. Or something.

Yeah, because what's a character without being over-powered.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why? Because an Asgaridan powered hammer wielder was doing severe damage to a Juggernaut/Colossus hybrid and was superior physically.

That's like spitting on a Christian's bible.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
it depends on if colossus inherited the full juggernaut power or just the less powerful one as most recently in thunderbolts. the latter juggernaut getting his shit cracked isn't a big surprise.

Why wouldn't he inherit the full power of the Juggernaut? If you have some type of evidence to support your stance I'll understand but Cytorrak whipped out the Crimson Gem and even said the classic chant.

I do find it amusing that certain individuals who were certain he was going to get the full power of Juggernaut before the issue came out will most likely debate against it now. I wonder why that is.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Yeah, because what's a character without being over-powered.

Pretty much.