Originally posted by abhilegend
That's your argument? Weak. Your taste is peerless indeed because I don't think someone other than you can stomach the things you taste.
lol what?
I don't have an argument. My "argument" is empirical evidence, let my refer you back to Exhibit A: Whilce Portacio's terrible art. I have hard documentation of Portacio's terrible art from Exhibit A through Exhibit ∞ if need be.
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Originally posted by srankmissingnin
My joke was that you like ugly art, so I question what you find ascetically pleasing in women. Your joke was that I like Wolverine... so... I must have a homoerotic fascination with Wolverine. Old f@cking hat man. I get it. I like Wolverine Har Har Har. Hilarious.But I guess I did started it and we are just devolving faster and faster into immature territory so whatever. Lets move on before this ends up being we both like Aquaman and therefor have sex with fish...
Yes, but did you like it because you have fond memories of the arc from the past? If you had never read those stories before, and that was your first exposure to them, would have the same opinion that you do know? I honestly doubt it.
I have fond memories of Jeff Matsuda's art circa X-Factor but objectively it's not very good.
actually no, that wasn't my joke, but okay.
I did read it when I was younger, but the same applies to John Byrne's X-Men too.
I still like Portacio's; Byrne's turns me off. And if I genuinely thought It was crap, i'd say so.
Portacio still, for me, draws arguably the best Colossus and Iceman I've ever seen. His art back then, while exaggerated at times, is still pleasing to the eye for me, even now. I've even gone back and bought them because I liked them so much (owning them for a second time).
Byrne was going to be the example I used for liking something for the sake of nostalgia. I still enjoy his Uncanny work, even going back and looking at in now, because of nostalgia but everything he has done in the bast 20 decades (the new Nextmen at IDW for example is awful). But even that being said... Bryne's worst work is better than Portacio's best. Bryne might have an antiqued style (and new artists with simple throw back styles like Chris Samnee, Paolo Rivera and Marcos Martin, do it better than he does), but unlike Portacio, he is still a consistent and technically sound artist.
Agree to disagree I guess. As an illustrator who wants to work in the field, Whilce Portacio is a ****ing insult to all the hard work I've put in at University so that I can one day be a penciler.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Byrne was going to be the example I used for liking something for the sake of nostalgia. I still enjoy his Uncanny work, even going back and looking at in now, because of nostalgia but everything he has done in the bast 20 decades (the new Nextmen at IDW for example is awful). But even that being said... Bryne's worst work is better than Portacio's best. Bryne might have an antiqued style (and new artists with simple throw back styles like Chris Samnee, Paolo Rivera and Marcos Martin, do it better than he does), but unlike Portacio, he is still a consistent and technically sound artist.Agree to disagree I guess. As an illustrator who wants to work in the field, Whilce Portacio is a ****ing insult to all the hard work I've put in at University so that I can one day be a penciler.
I honestly don't like any of Byrne's work anymore; even his X-Men stuff.
I am supposed to be buying some of the X-Men Byrne stuff from a friend soon, but that's only because it's actually signed by him from his extended time in Calgary.
Honestly, if you were going to be pissed off at someone, I think there are a lot worse than Portacio out there, but that's me.
http://www.reocities.com/marvel_megalomaniac/magneto/uxmen112a.jpg
How every Magneto vs Wolverine fight should go.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Gene Simons son? I hate that ******* too!
lol.
Honestly I sympathise. I'm trying to get in to the industry myself (though as a writer), and when I see guys like Bendis on Avengers or James Robinson's Cry for Justice, or even Krul's Red Arrow stuff, I want to smack a *****.
Originally posted by -Pr-
lol.Honestly I sympathise. I'm trying to get in to the industry myself (though as a writer), and when I see guys like Bendis on Avengers or James Robinson's Cry for Justice, or even Krul's Red Arrow stuff, I want to smack a *****.
James Robinson is really disappointing because he wrote Starman. The guy who wrote Starman, a seminal reading for a comic fan if there ever was one, wrote Cry For Justice? WTF.
Bendis? I don't really hate Bendis. He suffers from Whedon-esq style where every f@cking character is supposed to be a witty mouth piece for the writer... which means he ends up writing a team book with only one character in it, himself. We know Bendis can do amazing work, he has arguably the best Daredevil run in history on his belt (which is saying a lot because Daredevil as a character has had likely the most constantly great title in superhero comicdom) and his crime books are always great. I think he is just stretched thin because he writes 20 books a month. All of his Avengers books are middle of the road right now... but at least none of them are Cry for Justice.
JT Krul always sucked.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
James Robinson is really disappointing because he wrote Starman. The guy who wrote Starman, a seminal reading for a comic fan if there ever was one, wrote Cry For Justice? WTF.Bendis? I don't really hate Bendis. He suffers from Whedon-esq style where every f@cking character is supposed to be a witty mouth piece for the writer... which means he ends up writing a team book with only one character in it, himself. We know Bendis can do amazing work, he has arguably the best Daredevil run in history on his belt (which is saying a lot because Daredevil as a character has had likely the most constantly great title in superhero comicdom) and his crime books are always great. I think he is just stretched thin because he writes 20 books a month. All of his Avengers books are middle of the road right now... but at least none of them are Cry for Justice.
JT Krul always sucked.
I never read Starman, but I did read his JSA stuff, and I expected better. His Superman stuff is atrocious too.
Bendis' Daredevil is decent I agree, though I can't like the guy who basically singled out Hank Pym fans as being people he hated (and how he wished the character had never been created), before proceeding to use Ultron of all people.
And House of M. What a mess.
Krul's Green Arrow was fine I thought, but yeah, honestly, I genuinely believe I can do better.
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Cable got destroyed.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111001201719/marvel_dc/images/2/2b/Deathstroke_009.jpg
Deathstroke is the best at what he does.
