Character Ownage

Started by ODG5,121 pages

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
So Wolverine healed from severe brain trauma in one page while having his claws embedded in said brain and simply pulled the claws out? They would be damn near stuck in his adamantium skull...
Amazing healing feat. Should put it in his respect thread. And Wolverine's claws should have gotten stuck a whole bunch of times considering the things he's stabbed/slashed. Never really stopped him from stabbing/sheering straight through or pulling his claws out in the past. We both know this. Don't pretend we don't.

Originally posted by ODG
There is nothing conflicting in the plain presentation of that comic. Pretending that people don't perform feats which wouldn't seem very possible beforehand in comics until they actually do... historically not really a good way to read comics.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I personally think he stabbed through his skull, but the artist forgot his head was made out of the same shit as his claws.
srug
mjolnir'ing wolverine is fine, but the claws don't really seem like they are in past the tips and the holes left over filled in cause wolverine has skin under his mask. at the same time there is the onomatopoeia and the fact that his arm is staying at his forehead with him being layed out for a while from it...

Originally posted by ODG
Ah, yes. Pretending that the sound effect, a deep *SHUNK,* which is placed correctly cannot somehow mean it is... placed correctly. Mhmm. Fatty area... of... the brow. An inch of flesh (????????) which is to somehow explain Wolverine's entire arm being awkwardly stuck in position. As if your cro-magnon inch of thick forehead flesh (????????????) can somehow support Wolverine's entire arm being set into place. Genius. I told you we didn't need your embellishing. We also didn't need you adding red tints to the scan either. We see Wolverine's claws stuck in his head.

This isn't hard. There is nothing conflicting in the plain presentation of that comic. Pretending that people don't perform feats which wouldn't seem very possible beforehand in comics until they actually do... historically not really a good way to read comics.

Yes, because obviously "SHUNK" connotes a "deep" impact! That certainly can't be interpreted any other way.

This is just more of your typical bullshit. As though your loss interpretation of the meaning of sound effects and their placement, is more important then the plain and obvious fact that the points of Wolverine's claws are visible on panel, outside of his forehead. That one panel of his arm awkwardly akimbo is enough to warrant that his claws are obvious "stuck" in side of his skull?

You can spend all day interpreting the panels all you'd like, because they don't need to be interpreted. THE POINTS OF WOLVERINE'S CLAWS ARE VISIBLE OUTSIDE OF HIS SKULL, PRESSED AGAINST HIS FOREHEAD. That is the "e plain presentation of that comic," not your crazed interpretation of sound effects...

Originally posted by psycho gundam
mjolnir'ing wolverine is fine, but the claws don't really seem like they are in past the tips and the holes left over filled in cause wolverine has skin under his mask. at the same time there is the onomatopoeia and the fact that his arm is staying at his forehead with him being layed out for a while from it...
If it was just the pin points of his claws that touched his mask, why would there be three distinctly larger holes in his mask:

But you're right. Wolverine's arms being awkwardly stuck in stabbed position is rather definitive and conclusive here.

Originally posted by ODG
If it was just the pin points of his claws that touched his mask, why would there be three distinctly larger holes in his mask:

But you're right. Wolverine's arms being awkwardly stuck in stabbed position is rather definitive and conclusive here.

The physics behind being rammed in the head with class 100 focused on to the tips of his claws? If it was accurate his face would have exploded... three tiny craters at the point of impact is nothing.

Not to mention that the most visible hole is only about as wide as one of his teeth...

Let me know the sound effect made the day you finally pull your head out of your ass.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Yes, because obviously "SHUNK" connotes a "deep" impact! That certainly can't be interpreted any other way.
I interpret a *SHUNK* as a deep stab. Because I read comics.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
This is just more of your typical bullshit. As though your loss interpretation of the meaning of sound effects and their placement, is more important then the plain and obvious fact that the points of Wolverine's claws are visible on panel, outside of his forehead. That one panel of his arm awkwardly akimbo is enough to warrant that his claws are obvious "stuck" in side of his skull?
The parts of his claws that aren't driven straight into his brain are visible, sure. Niec job explaining how Wolverine's arm is awkwardly set into place if only the tips of his claws have touched his face. Oh... wait. You didn't explain that at all. Oops.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You can spend all day interpreting the panels all you'd like, because they don't need to be interpreted. THE POINTS OF WOLVERINE'S CLAWS ARE VISIBLE OUTSIDE OF HIS SKULL, PRESSED AGAINST HIS FOREHEAD. That is the "e plain presentation of that comic," not your crazed interpretation of sound effects...

Let me know the sound effect made the day you finally pull your head out of your ass.

Mindless Hulk made Wolverine stab himself in the brain.

Cry more?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The physics behind being rammed in the head with class 100 focused on to the tips of his claws? If it was accurate his face would have exploded... three tiny craters at the point of impact is nothing.

Not to mention that the most visible hole is only about as wide as one of his teeth...

Let me know the sound effect made the day you finally pull your head out of your ass.

Wolverine's face not exploding = Wolverine didn't get stabbed in the brain?

You've got some fugly teeth. And apparently an inch thick (???????) fleshy forehead.

Your awkward attempt at pun wasn't funny the first time, chief. It's just more awkward now because you're insisting on it.

Originally posted by vansonbee
Was it proven that a sharp point of a material cannot penetrate a sheet of the same material? and this with the Hulk strength.

It was stated that adamantium can't penetrate adamantium.

Originally posted by ODG
Amazing healing feat. Should put it in his respect thread. And Wolverine's claws should have gotten stuck a whole bunch of times considering the things he's stabbed/slashed. Never really stopped him from stabbing/sheering straight through or pulling his claws out in the past. We both know this. Don't pretend we don't.

And those things were significantly weaker than adamantium which is the best next thing to indestructible.

When Cyber caught Logan's claws, he couldn't retract them. When he tried to stab Shogun's adamantium breastplate, his claws got pushed back in his forearms.

Originally posted by ODG
I interpret a *SHUNK* as a deep stab. Because I read comics. The parts of his claws that aren't driven straight into his brain are visible, sure. Niec job explaining how Wolverine's arm is awkwardly set into place if only the tips of his claws have touched his face. Oh... wait. You didn't explain that at all. Oops. Mindless Hulk made Wolverine stab himself in the brain.

Cry more?

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Why do I need to explain the positioning of his arm in one panel? He got flash koed and his body went stiff. It happens. All sorts of weird shit happens to an unconscious body:

"Parts" of Wolverine's claws aren't just visible, the tips of his claws are visible. Clearly. Anyone looking at the page can see that his claws have been drawn coming to a point outside of skull in those pages. That's the end of the story. If he had stabbed himself in the brain, his claws would not be receding to a point outside of his skull.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
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Why do I need to explain the positioning of his arm in one panel? He got flash koed and his body went stiff. It happens. All sorts of weird shit happens:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v391/zombi_king/PE1.gif

"Parts" of Wolverine's claws aren't just visible, the tips of his claws are visible. Clearly. Anyone looking at the page can see that his claws have been drawn coming to a point outside of skull in those pages. That's the end of the story. If he had stabbed himself in the brain, his claws would not be receding to a point outside of his skull.

Stiff and the points of his claws just happen to be set right where Hulk shoved them into, despite gravity, despite him falling down... okie dokie.

Like I said, nobody needs you adding red coloring to the scans. And trying to act like stabbing could not have occurred because the claws would not be receding to point outside??? That's just dumb. Strike that from your post. Nobody insisted that Mindless Hulk drove the claws all the way in or that there is some rule of physics that requires a stabbing to be completely full-on.

Originally posted by ODG
Stiff and the points of his claws just happen to be set right where Hulk shoved them into, despite gravity, despite him falling down... okie dokie.

Like I said, nobody needs you adding red coloring to the scans. And trying to act like stabbing could not have occurred because the claws would not be receding to point outside??? That's just dumb. Strike that from your post. Nobody insisted that Mindless Hulk drove the claws all the way in or that there is some rule of physics that requires a stabbing to be completely full-on.

Obviously not a fight fan. People have been koed and their arms and legs shoot straight into the air like they are the Mummy. His arm being locked in place for one panel representing all of a second is nothing.

Apparently you do. The tips of Wolverine's claws are visible in the moment of the stabbing, and the moment proceeding it. There is not way to rationalize that and allow for the notion that he penetrated his skull and stabbed himself in the brain. The tips are visible on the outside of his head. He got rammed in the face by a class 100 with his own claws, stabbing himself in the fatty portion of the brow, resulting in a flash ko. Nothing on panel indicates that he was stabbed through his skull.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Obviously not a fight fan. People have been koed and their arms and legs shoot straight into the air like they are the Mummy. His arm being locked in place for one panel representing all of a second is nothing.

Apparently you do. The tips of Wolverine's claws are visible in the moment of the stabbing, and the moment proceeding it. There is not way to rationalize that and allow for the notion that he penetrated his skull and stabbed himself in the brain. The tips are visible on the outside of his head. He got rammed in the face by a class 100 with his own claws, stabbing himself in the fatty portion of the brow, resulting in a flash ko. Nothing on panel indicates that he was stabbed through his skull.

So we're to believe that Wolverine's arm just happened to stay in the same exact position as to where Mindless Hulk drove his claws into his skull. No! Wait! I get it! Wolverine's arms is actually spastically moving about but the artist just froze-frame it right when it was wavering back into that exact position!!! 😂

No. We do not need people editing scans with MSPaint. I get that you want to rationalize your way out of the plainly obvious. But you can't do it rationally. And I'm done caring whether you're too upset to agree to disagree. This sh1t is even more tired and senseless than Wolverine being shot in the brain.

Sh1t happens. It's a comic.

Originally posted by ODG
So we're to believe that Wolverine's arm just happened to stay in the same exact position as to where Mindless Hulk drove his claws into his skull. No! Wait! I get it! Wolverine's arms is actually spastically moving about but the artist just froze-frame it right when it was wavering back into that exact position!!! 😂

No. We do not need people editing scans with MSPaint. I get that you want to rationalize your way out of the plainly obvious. But you can't do it rationally. And I'm done caring whether you're too upset to agree to disagree. This sh1t is even more tired and senseless than Wolverine being shot in the brain.

Sh1t happens. It's a comic.

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You say that you don't need anyone to draw your attention to the fact that tips of Wolverine's claws are visible on the panel... and yet here you are, a dozen or so posts removed, still ignoring that fact. The artist drew Wolverine's claws pointed. The pointed section of the claws were drawn outside of Wolverine's skull. The very tips of the claws are the portion that meets in a point (duh). Ergo, Wolverine never stabbed himself in the brain.

You can gripe about effect positioning, and cry about the way Wolverine's arm is posed in one panel, until the cows come home, but at the end of the day it's all irrelevant. Based on the art as depicted on panel Wolverine wasn't stabbed in the brain. If you have a problem that I suggest you head to twitter and ask the artist why he decided not to draw Wolverine stabbing through his adamantium skull... as though that is a question that needs to be answered.

Great strength feat for Hulk, great healing feat for Wolverine.

Not digging bald hulk

Can't stand bald Hulk.

Originally posted by carver9
Can't stand bald Hulk.

lol i wonder why.

Originally posted by carver9
Why did writers ignore the power-up she received after jean entered her mind? Does make sense. If you look at the FULL scope of Psylock powers, she should easily work 90% of the people she face nut writers aren't familiar with her capabilities. Stupid.

Remender generally doesn't give a damn what other writers have done with a character. He's like Loeb, except he is actually one hell of a writer imo.

Originally posted by -Pr-
lol i wonder why.

Whatever Pr.

Originally posted by dmills
Remender generally doesn't give a damn what other writers have done with a character. He's like Loeb, except he is actually one hell of a writer imo.
Sadly, one of the few writers who seem to have an impact on Remender's work is Way... Still Remender does the best with what he left with.