Here it is, an interview with Jason Aaron about AvX 12 :
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=41345
This is an interesting conversation between the Scarlet Witch and the Phoenix-empowered Hope. What does it mean for Wanda Maximoff to have this moment with Hope and talk her down from the ledge of ultimate power?Those two characters were always at the heart of things whenever we talked about "AvX." Several months ago, we did a #0 issue focusing on Hope and Wanda. They are characters who have been through a lot and still have something to prove. Wanda, in a lot of people's eyes, still needs to make up for what happened with "House of M." Hope, of course, was still looking for her destiny.
So I like that those two arcs come crashing together here in the heat of battle. We see Wanda step forward and we see, that because of everything she had been through, she was the one person who could convince Hope to make the right decision -- and Hope was the only person who could make this decision.
Does this help relieve Wanda of any of the guilt she felt over "House of M?"
I think so, but that doesn't necessarily mean everyone else is going to see it that way. The mutants of the Marvel Universe certainly aren't going to embrace her with open arms.
For me, this is an end of an arc that started way back in "House of M." It should be obvious when we start to see the blips pop up later in the issue.
In this scene, is it just Hope rejecting ultimate power, or is Wanda giving up some of her power as well?
No, I don't think Wanda is giving away any power here, as far as I'm concerned. Somebody could write things differently. It's the two of them holding hands and sending that Phoenix power off with words that obviously echo Wanda's utterance of "No more mutants" from back in the day.
It's the Phoenix power that's blasting out and reigniting the mutant race, which was the whole reason Hope was born in the first place. She was born in that explosion of energy. On the first page of this issue, I break down something we had always talked about internally, but I'm not sure it had been represented in a story; how Hope and Wanda were connected.
When Wanda said, "No more mutants," the Phoenix Force countered with, "More mutants," and Hope was born. She grew up a mutant messiah and was heralded as the rebirth of the mutant race. There was this idea that these two opposing forces were battling each other, via their representatives in the form of Wanda and Hope.
Absolutely no mention of the Lifeforce or anything else that went on during Children's Crusade were even hinted at.
Originally posted by Mindset
Where in those scans did you get that from?
When you've spent enough time on these forums you'll learn from the other members how to objectively interpret the scans. And, looking at your post history, I can conclude you are quite skilled in it yourself.
Edit. Also please notice how Magneto casually deflected the attack from Galactus. In fact, he effortlessly extended this protection over all the X-men and Xavier.
Originally posted by zopzop
Here it is, an interview with Jason Aaron about AvX 12 :
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=41345Absolutely no mention of the Lifeforce or anything else that went on during Children's Crusade were even hinted at. [/B]
yup
Originally posted by carver9
It isn't canon and there were two versions of Hulk. One was green and then the Grey Hulk that is showing in that scan.
Who says it wasn't cannon? As far as I know, it's one of those timeless tales and part of the new Season One retelling that came out. So far it's being released exclusively with Avengers DVD's or something but it's going into hardcover soon along with the other Season One books in an Avengers omnibus or whatever.
The entire fight from Alvaros for those interested:
http://www.comicboards.com/php/image.php?msg=thor-2012092623035123&att=1348700339-picsay.jpg&fullsize=yes
http://www.comicboards.com/php/image.php?msg=thor-2012092623035123&att=1348700322-picsay.jpg&fullsize=yes
http://www.comicboards.com/php/image.php?msg=thor-2012092623035123&att=1348700297-picsay.jpg&fullsize=yes
http://www.comicboards.com/php/image.php?msg=thor-2012092623054623&att=1348700279-picsay.jpg&fullsize=yes
http://www.comicboards.com/php/image.php?msg=thor-2012092623054623&att=1348700258-picsay.jpg&fullsize=yes
http://www.comicboards.com/php/image.php?msg=thor-2012092623054623&att=1348700239-picsay.jpg&fullsize=yes
http://www.comicboards.com/php/image.php?msg=thor-2012092623100827&att=1348700209-picsay.jpg&fullsize=yes
http://www.comicboards.com/php/image.php?msg=thor-2012092623100827&att=1348700172-picsay.jpg&fullsize=yes
http://www.comicboards.com/php/image.php?msg=thor-2012092623100827&att=1348700144-picsay.jpg&fullsize=yes
http://www.comicboards.com/php/image.php?msg=thor-2012092623125578&att=1348700083-picsay.jpg&fullsize=yes
http://www.comicboards.com/php/image.php?msg=thor-2012092623125578&att=1348700065-picsay.jpg&fullsize=yes
Thor took on the Gravage Hulk and Grey Hulk and was at least holding his own. A good showing
Originally posted by carver9
Scans of Hulk seperating into two entities...grey Hulk and Green Hulk.
Lol. So you have absolutely no clue what the story was about? The Grey Hulk was plucked from the past (Right after the Gamma Bomb detonation) to that time period.
Even if Hulk was separated into two entities, I have no idea how you think that would make it non canon. I'm genuinely curious as to how your brain processes information to let you come to the conclusions that you do.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Lol. So you have absolutely no clue what the story was about? The Grey Hulk was plucked from the past (Right after the Gamma Bomb detonation) to that time period.Even if Hulk was separated into two entities, I have no idea how you think that would make it non canon. I'm genuinely curious as to how your brain processes information to let you come to the conclusions that you do.
It's not canon to Hulk.
Someone broke it down on comicvine why it isn't canon.
