Character Ownage

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Before this is locked again.

Originally posted by Mindset
You still have Lord Rand.

👆 Only thing holding me up so far lol.

Originally posted by comicfan11
They have the numbers, but can anyone for that team replicate Supes feat? Even combined.

Do you honestly believe DCnU Superman was written at earth benching strength for five days non-stop when he fought Darkseid? And do you think that feat is going to drastically alter Superman's combat performance accordingly?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Thanos took a punch from a guy whose fists can vaporize planets and other peers without making direct physical contact.

Also one from Hulk.


Different hulk.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Do you honestly believe DCnU Superman was written at earth benching strength when he fought Darkseid? And do you think that feat is going to drastically alter Superman's combat performance accordingly?

What I think is irrelevant. And for that matter what you think is also irrelevant.

What is relevant is continuity.
And in continuity DS overpowered the Planet Benching Supes.
Just like Thanos got his teeth knocked out by a street leveler with a durable piece of metal.

And you haven's answered my question yet.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Do you honestly believe DCnU Superman was written at earth benching strength for five days non-stop when he fought Darkseid? And do you think that feat is going to drastically alter Superman's combat performance accordingly?

At that time we didn't knew how strong superman was. Now we know, that doesn't mean superman was weaker there. It means darkseid was stronger than superman who is at planetery+ level strength.

Originally posted by abhilegend
At that time we didn't knew how strong superman was. Now we know, that doesn't mean superman was weaker there. It means darkseid was stronger than superman who is at planetery+ level strength.

This.

I made a thread to discuss the DCnU Superman/Darkseid comparison to Thanos/Avengers as I don't want this thread to get overblown. I'll answer questions/debate there.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Loeb went Bendis there on the end. Asking for a ride, brief small talk, trying to hard to sound like real people and instead sound like nothing anyone would say, etc.

Lol. Be that as it may, I'll give it a shot if for nothing else then as a fun popcorn book. I've nearly no desire to deal with another Bendis team book. Though I'll keep an eye on it just because those gotg members hold a special place in my heart. Too bad Jack Flagg, Mantis and Cosmo are MIA.

Originally posted by HueyFreeman

Do I even want to know what that guy was going to do or saying?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Do I even want to know what that guy was going to do or saying?
Nope

Originally posted by abhilegend
At that time we didn't knew how strong superman was. Now we know, that doesn't mean superman was weaker there. It means darkseid was stronger than superman who is at planetery+ level strength.

While a lot of times we take this "pretend we are talking about real people with real, stable properties" approach to debating characters it gets pretty silly pretty quickly if you take it too far.

We didn't "discover how strong Superman really is" anymore than we will discover how strong Superman really is next month if he fails to stop a falling jumbo jet. They are fictional characters with different showings. This was a great showing. For many people it will be how they like to think Superman should be written. For others, not so much. It might become the norm over time but I dont think everyone has to retroactively assume that nu-Superman was always "really" this strong in his other appearances under other creators.

The issue isn't even out yet. Can we save the angst at least until we have the full issue in context?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I made a thread to discuss the DCnU Superman/Darkseid comparison to Thanos/Avengers as I don't want this thread to get overblown. I'll answer questions/debate there.

Where?

Originally posted by Philosophía
[B][b]I'll post this here too because..

Holy flying f*ck

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=68814

Superman is now, officially I'd say far, far more powerful than before.

If there's a comic book that'd ever get me to masturbate, it would be this one.
[/B]


This feat is nuts for a high herald especially these days, and to do it with the apparent ease that Clark did is impressive. A bit retarded bench pressing for 5 days, but it's a feat perfect for the battleboards 😂

Originally posted by The Sorrow
This feat is nuts for a high herald especially these days, and to do it with the apparent ease that Clark did is impressive. A bit retarded bench pressing for 5 days, but it's a feat perfect for the battleboards 😂
If you think that is nuts for a high herald you probably don't know what high herald is.

They can survive Black Holes, causally blow up planets as a side effect of an attack, go into suns, hurt cosmic entities that can wipe out galaxies, contain big bangs, traverse the universe in seconds.

This is an insanely impressive feat yes, but I could see a writer easily putting Hulk, to a lesser extent Thor, Captain Marvel, Black Adam in the same situation and have them pull it off, and I wouldn't be going OMG they are now the strongest Heralds ever!!!

That being said this isn't a place to argue over scans this is a character ownage thread, obviously Superman was doing some serious ownage in that scan. Talk about the ownage and move on to the next. If you want to debate the implications of that scan in a vs fight do it in a thread for it like Hulk vs Superman or Captain Marvel vs Superman or Thor vs Superman.

Thank you

Originally posted by Newjak
If you think that is nuts for a high herald you probably don't know what high herald is.

They can survive Black Holes, causally blow up planets as a side effect of an attack, go into suns, hurt cosmic entities that can wipe out galaxies, contain big bangs, traverse the universe in seconds.

This is an insanely impressive feat yes, but I could see a writer easily putting Hulk, to a lesser extent Thor, Captain Marvel, Black Adam in the same situation and have them pull it off, and I wouldn't be going OMG they are now the strongest Heralds ever!!!

That being said this isn't a place to argue over scans this is a character ownage thread, obviously Superman was doing some serious ownage in that scan. Talk about the ownage and move on to the next. If you want to debate the implications of that scan in a vs fight do it in a thread for it like Hulk vs Superman or Captain Marvel vs Superman or Thor vs Superman.

Thank you


Wut? Name one high herald who's done those feats? I can't see any current high herald who can bench press a whole planet let alone do it for 5 days. Post crisis superman would be the closest to do that but he mentioned it twice as possibility and both were chalked up as hyperbole. BTW I'm not talking about its implications, I just wanted to know what you meant as "high heralds do this, this and that". Oh and low heralds survivd black holes casually, its no big deal.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Wut? Name one high herald who's done those feats? I can't see any current high herald who can bench press a whole planet let alone do it for 5 days. Post crisis superman would be the closest to do that but he mentioned it twice as possibility and both were chalked up as hyperbole. BTW I'm not talking about its implications, I just wanted to know what you meant as "high heralds do this, this and that". Oh and low heralds survivd black holes casually, its no big deal.
I will not get into a debate with you in this thread Abhi. You've already been told before to cut it out and stop clogging the thread. If you wish to continue please by all means we can take this to another thread.