http://s578.photobucket.com/user/OdinBorson/media/KindaWorthyThor_zpsf7cd416a.jpg.html
Here we have a young Thor obviously struggling to hold Mjolnir.
http://s578.photobucket.com/user/OdinBorson/media/KindaWorthyThor2_zps5ca33ecc.jpg.html
Here he continues to struggle before dropping the hammer.
It's pretty evident that, at least according to the enchantment, there's "levels" of worthiness, which are obviously not dependent on strength. That's the only other explanation for Thor struggling to pick up the hammer and being able to lift it somewhat, before dropping it.
http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss225/OdinBorson/WorthyThor_zpse7a4eee8.jpg
Here, Thor succeeds in lifting Mjolnir over his head completely, but you can clearly see sweat in the second panel as well as the grimace as he hoists it over head.
So, per Thor comics, you can struggle physically to be "worthy" or even "kinda worthy". Hulk claiming he's worthy is also the obvious intent of the writer/artist (again, per this issue and barring any other developments). Otherwise, if we're going to suggest that Hulk overcame the enchantment by pure strength, that would mean he's stronger than Superman per JLA/Avengers, which doesn't even begin to make sense.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankJLA/Avengers is non-cannonSo, per Thor comics, you can struggle physically to be "worthy" or even "kinda worthy". Hulk claiming he's worthy is also the obvious intent of the writer/artist (again, per this issue and barring any other developments). Otherwise, if we're going to suggest that Hulk overcame the enchantment by pure strength, that would mean he's stronger than Superman per JLA/Avengers, which doesn't even begin to make sense.
also, why would it be so shocking for hulk (a being whos one attribute is limitless strength) be stronger than superman?
Originally posted by JakeTheBankI'd like issue number for all of those. 🙂
http://s578.photobucket.com/user/OdinBorson/media/KindaWorthyThor_zpsf7cd416a.jpg.htmlhttp://s578.photobucket.com/user/OdinBorson/media/KindaWorthyThor2_zps5ca33ecc.jpg.html
http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss225/OdinBorson/WorthyThor_zpse7a4eee8.jpg
Originally posted by JakeTheBankNot forum-canon.
Otherwise, if we're going to suggest that Hulk overcame the enchantment by pure strength, that would mean he's stronger than Superman per JLA/Avengers, which doesn't even begin to make sense.
And sure, if we go by that, Hulk is stronger.
Originally posted by Philosophía
I'd like issue number for all of those. 🙂And sure, if we go by that, Hulk is stronger.
The first two are from Thor: Son of Asgard #10 and the second is from Avengers Origins: Thor.
And yes, I realize that while Thor didn't struggle in the exact same method as Hulk did, it still shows that the hammer can, for whatever reason, dictate "how worthy you are" and "weigh" accordingly.
And I'm fairly certain - positive even - that I could find more instances of a worthy being seemingly struggle at first to lift Mjolnir.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
http://s578.photobucket.com/user/OdinBorson/media/KindaWorthyThor_zpsf7cd416a.jpg.htmlHere we have a young Thor obviously struggling to hold Mjolnir.
http://s578.photobucket.com/user/OdinBorson/media/KindaWorthyThor2_zps5ca33ecc.jpg.html
Here he continues to struggle before dropping the hammer.
It's pretty evident that, at least according to the enchantment, there's "levels" of worthiness, which are obviously not dependent on strength. That's the only other explanation for Thor struggling to pick up the hammer and being able to lift it somewhat, before dropping it.
http://i578.photobucket.com/albums/ss225/OdinBorson/WorthyThor_zpse7a4eee8.jpg
Here, Thor succeeds in lifting Mjolnir over his head completely, but you can clearly see sweat in the second panel as well as the grimace as he hoists it over head.
So, per Thor comics, you can struggle physically to be "worthy" or even "kinda worthy". Hulk claiming he's worthy is also the obvious intent of the writer/artist (again, per this issue and barring any other developments). Otherwise, if we're going to suggest that Hulk overcame the enchantment by pure strength, that would mean he's stronger than Superman per JLA/Avengers, which doesn't even begin to make sense.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Btw, is Son of Asgard even canon?Also Jake, the 3rd instance isn't really Thor struggling to lift Mjolnir. Merely him getting dramatic before picking it up in one swoop.
Yes, seeing as how Avengers Origins: Thor directly references the events which took place, especially Hel kidnapping Sif.
Looks like he's struggling to lift it in the second panel, given the bead of sweat on his face and the fact that Mjolnir is raised only slightly in the third. Though I'll admit its certainly open to interpretation.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yes, seeing as how Avengers Origins: Thor directly references the events which took place, especially Hel kidnapping Sif.Looks like he's struggling to lift it in the second panel, given the bead of sweat on his face and the fact that Mjolnir is raised only slightly in the third. Though I'll admit its certainly open to interpretation.
Bead of sweat that can easily be seen part of the shadeline on his cheek. Mjolnir gets lifted immediately in one fell swoop after that panel of it being slightly raised. Doesn't really conclusively prove that he was struggling to lift it. It's not as clear-cut as your first 2 scans.
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I'll have to cross-reference to be sure.Bead of sweat that can easily be seen part of the shadowline on his cheek. Mjolnir gets lifted immediately in one fell swoop after that panel of it being slightly raised. Doesn't really conclusively prove that he was struggling to lift it. It's not as clear-cut as your first 2 scans.
Go for it. Avengers Origins: Thor seemed to be a "sequel" of sorts to Thor: Son of Asgard, and nothing from Son of Asgard seems to suggest its non-canon status.
As I said, it's open to interpretation. Personally, given the fact that Thor struggled to "kinda" lift Mjolnir and "kinda" be worthy - which I don't even agree with, but whatever it happened - I think there's room for argument.
