Originally posted by psycho gundam
There is only one Living tribunal. That finale dialog referred to him in plural
It is pretty sad when the writers make errors of that magnitude. There's not 'a' Living Tribunal in each universe; there's just 'the' Living Tribunal, one and only, judging over *every* universe.
Also, the portrayal of TOAA was hilariously bad. Apparently he/she/it is just a powerful cosmic being who is quick-tempered and easy to manipulate by the likes of Thanos.
Originally posted by Magnon
Yeah :/It is pretty sad when the writers make errors of that magnitude. There's not 'a' Living Tribunal in each universe; there's just 'the' Living Tribunal, one and only, judging over *every* universe.
Also, the portrayal of TOAA was hilariously bad. Apparently he/she/it is just a powerful cosmic being who is quick-tempered and easy to manipulate by the likes of Thanos.
The LT part was confusing. If this story is continuity, then did the Beyonders only kill some sort of M-Body/Aspect/Avatar of 616 and not the LT as a whole? Bad story anyway.
As for TOAA, I'm inclined to think Warlock and Thanos were just talking to some intermediary or insignificantly minute manifestation of TOAA's presence, so that it could converse on their level. But it's interesting that it pointed out that the being already knew what it wanted and what the outcome would be, and that it "could not be talked into anything." In the end, I think it was just allowing Warlock to use his gift of free will by making the choice, but the whole encounter was very odd and, like almost all modern Starlin, pathetically underwhelming in its portrayal of things that are supposed to be of vast and unimaginable cosmic scope.
The story was just bad, mainly because Starlin just recycles the same stuff over and over. And his dialogue seems to get worse every year - something about the beat of the words seems off.
Originally posted by abhilegend
In this, yes. Loki is adult, Doom is again wearing the mask and Banner is Hulk.That's worse than even Loeb.
I'd like to say that it just takes place waaaay before current Marvel. Like around Secret Invasion event.
But Eddie as Venom? Seriously? 😂
Thor wears his stupid chainmail costume, so it must take place after Civil War, when Gargan was the symbiote user...
I'm overthinking it, Starlin probably just picked the characters he knew and told the editor to stfu.
Originally posted by deathslashIs that issue even out yet ? Do we know the context to the fight ? The circumstances ? What we do know is the infinity finale. We just saw the infinity finale and Thanos tanked shots that destroyed all save him. All praise be to Thanos. I told you all so.
you know what is canon and masterfully done? Thanus getting the shit kicked out of him by blue marvel, human torch, Ms marvel, black panther, and she hulk.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I'd like to say that it just takes place waaaay before current Marvel. Like around Secret Invasion event.But Eddie as Venom? Seriously? 😂
Thor wears his stupid chainmail costume, so it must take place after Civil War, when Gargan was the symbiote user...
I'm overthinking it, Starlin probably just picked the characters he knew and told the editor to stfu.
Yeah, and Starlin specified that all these attacks were less than destroying the moon.
And its not like Thanos was totally unaffected by these blasts. The blast that kills Thor also destroyed Thanos left hand as well.
Originally posted by jrodslam
Hmm. What would we call it? True it wasnt a ko, but he downed him to the point Hulk was unable to pursuit? Is it right to assume that? Holding on enough to where youre still conscious, but unable to act.
Not really. Hulk is up on his feet and right behind Thanos about to attack again in the panels immediately following the ones shown. He doesn't attack because Thanos announces that he is there as an ally and the assembled heroes/villains decide to hear him out. It's definitely not a very flattering showing for Hulk, but he's also not incapacitated for more than a moment or two.
Abhi is right about this being an absolute continuity cluster-****. I would fully expect this to be ignored if not outright disowned by editorial in the same way that The End often has been.
Cheers.
A few corrections are necessary here. The blasts were localized as it was more satisfying to Annihilus. It's like saying why didn't Galactus destroy planets when he unleashed his full might on a singular foe. It's localized and concentrated on a smaller target and or radius. The first blasts was sent right at Thanos' head which in incinerated Nightcrawler. The same blasts hit Thanos multiple times and his hand was never destroyed. Thor's body was left in pieces. Thanos tanked abstract level power. He's that powerful as I've always claimed.
Originally posted by LGU
Not really. Hulk is up on his feet and right behind Thanos about to attack again in the panels immediately following the ones shown. He doesn't attack because Thanos announces that he is there as an ally and the assembled heroes/villains decide to hear him out. It's definitely not a very flattering showing for Hulk, but he's also not incapacitated for more than a moment or two.Abhi is right about this being an absolute continuity cluster-****. I would fully expect this to be ignored if not outright disowned by editorial in the same way that The End often has been.
Cheers.
This is all I need to read. Scott, why didn't you post this part?
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I'd like to say that it just takes place waaaay before current Marvel. Like around Secret Invasion event.But Eddie as Venom? Seriously? 😂
Thor wears his stupid chainmail costume, so it must take place after Civil War, when Gargan was the symbiote user...
I'm overthinking it, Starlin probably just picked the characters he knew and told the editor to stfu.
The time-line doesn't make any sense if you put the slightest amount of thought in to it. Forget the inconsistencies in Venom, Thor, Doom etc... Starlin gets horribly bogged down in his attempts at establishing a time-line just in terms of the Hulk.
Thanos and Warlock explicitly restore the universe back to shortly after the Thanos vs Hulk mini. But that mini took place - again, very explicitly - during Mark Waid's Indestructible Hulk run. That places it squarely before any of the "Time Runs Out" and "Secret Wars" stuff, because Hulk had become "Doc Green" by that point and remained in that incarnation up to and including the beginning of "Secret Wars".
So that would suggest that this story must have occurred before the Beyonders killed the Living Tribunal etc. But that doesn't fit, because the Beyonders killing the LT is explicitly referenced in this very issue and Adam Warlock takes the vacant role. Starlin evidently got the timeframe completely mixed up (or just didn't care) and as a result there is no real way to reconcile this story with the rest of the MU's development over the last couple of years as far as I can see.
It's just Starlin doing his own thing again, given plenty of slack on the leash because everyone knows it will never be referenced in a meaningful way again. I'd be amazed if people like Brevoort consider this to be canon.
Cheers.