Character Ownage

Started by Utrigita5,121 pages

Originally posted by Galan007
It's somewhat of an interesting take on cosmology, because the First Firmament created the original black&white Celestials, who then created the multi-colored Celestials we are all familiar with, to be their slaves. An eventual war between these two factions of Celestials is what shattered the original blank void of creation(which was personified/embodied by the First Firmament) into the first multiverse.

This concept takes a dump on quite a bit of Marvel's previously established continuity, but it sorta/kinda aligns with the creation-story given in Astonishing X-Men #61:

...So I guess it's not completely without grounds. srug

I was more thinking of it as a attempt to streamline the various creations stories that Marvel has had over the years. Sise-Neg, Ultimate Nullifier, The Alien Entity, Captain Marvel and Entropy along with the Rebirth of Galan to Galactus from the previous Multiverse and more I'm probably forgetting. I also like that they have established that there is no difference between Eternity and Multi-Eternity as was once the case, building on the way Eternity was once portrayed in a Doctor Strange comic iirc. It'll change again though in the future most likely.

In the end I'll give Al Ewing props for trying to connect the various lines, but interesting to see how the War between the Abstracts will play out in the longer run.

Not a fan of Ewing, but we should appreciate the effort Marvel is making here.

It's somewhat of an interesting take on cosmology, because the First Firmament created the original black&white Celestials, who then created the multi-colored Celestials we are all familiar with, to be their slaves.

Wait, so the Marvel Universe has been retconned into being created by Celestials of color that used to be slaves?

No wonder the universe has been going all progressive as of late.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I wish Cull would do more. The Asgardians really don't seem impressive without gear

It's because they aren't.

Originally posted by Warrior Madness
It's because they aren't.

Not really. Odin obv dont need one. Odinson can or rather could do everything without it. Loki doesnt need one. Angela,Cull, Bor..
To a lesser extent Balder etc..they just get typecast

Originally posted by Utrigita
I was more thinking of it as a attempt to streamline the various creations stories that Marvel has had over the years. Sise-Neg, Ultimate Nullifier, The Alien Entity, Captain Marvel and Entropy along with the Rebirth of Galan to Galactus from the previous Multiverse and more I'm probably forgetting.
Don't get me wrong, I am definitely a fan of the streamlined cosmology that Ewing is establishing in The Ultimates... It's just going to piss off some of the self-proclaimed 'Marvel purists' amongst the battleboards, is all(which I am also a fan of, btw.) haw-som

Originally posted by Utrigita
I also like that they have established that there is no difference between Eternity and Multi-Eternity as was once the case, building on the way Eternity was once portrayed in a Doctor Strange comic iirc. It'll change again though in the future most likely.
Indeed. 👆

I also like that he's established there is NO difference between 'multiverse' and 'omniverse'. These terms literally refer to the exact same cosmology, and are often used interchangeably. I definitely like that, as I have always loathed Marvel's concept of 'infinite infinities', lol.

Originally posted by Utrigita
In the end I'll give Al Ewing props for trying to connect the various lines, but interesting to see how the War between the Abstracts will play out in the longer run.
Given the revelation in this issue that Celestials were created directly by the hand of the First Firmament, and that a war between the two factions of Celestials is what originally shattered him into innumerable pieces, I am most interested to see what role OAA(the last Celestial) plays in this affair..? I can only imagine that he will be an invaluable element in the upcoming war, to say the least -- Never Queen saved him for a reason, after all... mmm

Lol...i just realized something. Stark while fighting Hulk brought up this armor.

During his fight with hulk he mentions the God killer armor (shown above) and admits it isn't enough to stop the hulk.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/19644404/Original_Sin_-_Hulk_vs._Iron_Man_004-002.jpg.html

How powerful is the God killer? It fought against the Celestials. Countless of them...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123396/3196946-iron+man+v5+013-006.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123396/3196947-iron+man+v5+013-008.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123396/3196948-iron+man+v5+013-009.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123396/3196949-iron+man+v5+013-010.jpg

Avoid stretching the page next time.

It happens all the time, sure, but you just took it to the whole new level.

😛

Originally posted by carver9
During his fight with hulk he mentions the God killer armor (shown above) and admits it isn't enough to stop the hulk.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/19644404/Original_Sin_-_Hulk_vs._Iron_Man_004-002.jpg.html

Carver, you seriously need to go back to school and work on your reading comprehension if you think Tony said that in this scan.

😂

...And carver wonders why people think of him as a joke, lol. The guy clearly has a legitimate reading comprehension disability, irl... There's really no other possibility, tbh... No one is that stupid.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...i just realized something. Stark while fighting Hulk brought up this armor.

During his fight with hulk he mentions the God killer armor (shown above) and admits it isn't enough to stop the hulk.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/19644404/Original_Sin_-_Hulk_vs._Iron_Man_004-002.jpg.html

How powerful is the God killer? It fought against the Celestials. Countless of them...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123396/3196946-iron+man+v5+013-006.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123396/3196947-iron+man+v5+013-008.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123396/3196948-iron+man+v5+013-009.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/123396/3196949-iron+man+v5+013-010.jpg

Originally posted by Cogito
Carver, you seriously need to go back to school and work on your reading comprehension if you think Tony said that in this scan.
Originally posted by Galan007
😂

...And carver wonders why people think of him as a joke, lol. The guy clearly has a legitimate reading comprehension disability, irl... There's really no other possibility, tbh... No one is that stupid.


😂

Lol.

Originally posted by Cogito
Carver, you seriously need to go back to school and work on your reading comprehension if you think Tony said that in this scan.

Forgot to include this scan. Sorry.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/19644345/Original_Sin_-_Hulk_vs._Iron_Man_004-003.jpg.html

He say it here.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Avoid stretching the page next time.

It happens all the time, sure, but you just took it to the whole new level.

😛

The page looks like a work of art with that stretch.

Originally posted by carver9
Forgot to include this scan. Sorry.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/19644345/Original_Sin_-_Hulk_vs._Iron_Man_004-003.jpg.html

He say it here.

It's nice that it ends with a quote from Clint Barton, lol.

Originally posted by carver9
Forgot to include this scan. Sorry.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/19644345/Original_Sin_-_Hulk_vs._Iron_Man_004-003.jpg.html

He say it here.

Closer, but still reaching (a lot)

Originally posted by Cogito
Closer, but still reaching (a lot)

It isn't reaching though. His statement is clear. He on my have one 25000 ft armor and admits in The scan that this armor isn't enough to stop hulk.

He admits that he doesn't have enough time for using it...

Lol, just realised this.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Yeah, but she's mind controlled, so we should discount that!

Remember, even with her bracelets on, she was stronger and faster:

So a bloodlusted, out for the kill, WW with GoW upgrade, was unable to kill or even KO an injured, sick Batman, without his Batsuit, even with a suckerpunch.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He admits that he doesn't have enough time for using it...

He did mention that BEFORE mentioning everything he had. He mentioned everything and then mentioned what he threw at Hulk and said "something in me tells me I weaponized a city and threw it at Hulk. It will not be enough. Nothing will be enough".