Character Ownage

Started by Bentley5,121 pages

The ending was almost a toy series commercial. There was nothing appealing or smart about how the conflict was resolved, whatever gravity there was on having several established characters gone evil was swept under the rug.

Even as an Avengers arc in would've been forgettable. They just wanted to make World War Thors or something.

Originally posted by Bentley
Shadowland was indeed decent, Spider-Island was cool, Annihilation was also awesome. Most events from back then were still average at best aside from a few chose ones.

I'm kind of thorn about the Thanos Imperative though. It was better than anything else in which the Annihilators appeared, Chaos War and War of Kings, but I still remember it as being a middle-of-the-pack event.

Yeah, the Fearless was cool, sort of a Defenders mini with a grounded enough balance. I liked its premise.

Thanos Imperative was indeed amazing, Marvel Cosmics were protrayed with respect instead of the joke they are today. Lord Mar-vell was such a badass character. I also like the fact that Thanos was not wanked too much, but still portrayed clearly superior than everyone in the annihilators team. Even though he turned into the beta in front of death like he always does at the end.

Fraction is just terrible, Jason Aaron was the only good Thor writer in the last 10 years

Originally posted by Bentley
The ending was almost a toy series commercial. There was nothing appealing or smart about how the conflict was resolved, whatever gravity there was on having several established characters gone evil was swept under the rug.

Even as an Avengers arc in would've been forgettable. They just wanted to make World War Thors or something.

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Funny, the original Secret Wars event was actually meant as a commercial for toys.

But Jim Shooter wanted it to be something more and gave us a great story.

Yeah, that's my biggest gripe with Thanos Imperative, it really had no direction for the character in its ending after a decent build up. The art and the concepts were good enough to pull me for the duration of the event so I wasn't really that sour by the end.

@Parmaniac: I'll give Carnage USA a check, I'm not very well read in the character but it's always good to try stuff at their high points to get into new things.

Originally posted by panthergod
What would you say was the problem with Fear Itself?

This is the way they teased the event:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b3/ec/ad/b3ecad1138057d60986317395ea0c68e.jpg
Do you fear... Tomorrow?

http://www.omega-level.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Fear-Itself-Promo-3.jpg
Do you fear... Loosong control?

http://www.omega-level.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Fear-Itself-Promo-1.jpg
Do you fear... The legacy you'll leave behind

http://www.omega-level.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Fear-Itself-Promo-4.jpg
Do you fear... A loss of faith?

http://westfieldcomics.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Cyclops1.jpg
Do you fear... What you've become?

One could probably write pages full of the potnetial for stories that these teasers pack for each character shown.

And then the actual event was about villains getting hammers.

If FI would have turned into a long and awesome battle that would have at least in a certain way redeemed the event but even the final battle between the worthy and the chosen was absolutely disappointing and mostly off panel. So FI disappointed my twice if you want so.

The Fearless played as a race to get the hammers and that actually gave it a more Dynamic and focused plot.

Originally posted by MrMind
Fraction is just terrible, Jason Aaron was the only good Thor writer in the last 10 years

I found Straczynski to be ok back in the day (unless I'm confusing writers here).

Gillen and JMS were good.

Fraction could be really good and really terrible. It was jarring.

The love is real.

Fraction is responsible for the current Thor and Odin relationship. The disrespect was so blatant and unnecessary, a long with Tyrant Odin personality and the worst Asgardian dialogue I have ever read? Hr was bad. Even if he pumped out the feats.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Fraction is responsible for the current Thor and Odin relationship. The disrespect was so blatant and unnecessary, a long with Tyrant Odin personality and the worst Asgardian dialogue I have ever read? Hr was bad. Even if he pumped out the feats.

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Jerk father Odin and Ill-tempered Thor under Fraction was forgettable.

Originally posted by Bentley
The Fearless played as a race to get the hammers and that actually gave it a more Dynamic and focused plot.

I found Straczynski to be ok back in the day (unless I'm confusing writers here).

I almost forgot JMS, his thor run was decent
however his superman run was so so bad, superman walking all over america, lulzy as fck

Sinestro Corps War is how you do an event. Tangible stakes, awesome fights, real character moments and a satisfying end yet teaser for new stories.

Final Crisis is still the most awesome crossover ever.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Sinestro Corps War is how you do an event. Tangible stakes, awesome fights, real character moments and a satisfying end yet teaser for new stories.
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I have a soft spot for Infinite Crisis and Civil War, too. Those are the first two events I read as I got into comics.

Never liked Civil War. Civil War 2 though was just spitting in the fans faces.

My favorite story since 2010 even though it's not an event is Vengeance. There's something about it that I really enjoy. Need to reread it as I haven't for a couple years.

Originally posted by Philosophía
I have a soft spot for Infinite Crisis and Civil War, too. Those are the first two events I read as I got into comics.

How old are you?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
How old are you?
27

Originally posted by One Big Mob
Never liked Civil War. Civil War 2 though was just spitting in the fans faces.

My favorite story since 2010 even though it's not an event is Vengeance. There's something about it that I really enjoy. Need to reread it as I haven't for a couple years.

It's funny how it works, but if I'd have read Civil War after I got into comics, I wouldn't have like it due to all the character assassination. I guess that series was the first step towards Marvel not giving a shit about characterizations and continuity.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Fraction is responsible for the current Thor and Odin relationship. The disrespect was so blatant and unnecessary, a long with Tyrant Odin personality and the worst Asgardian dialogue I have ever read? Hr was bad. Even if he pumped out the feats.
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He was being 100% true to Stan Lee and Kirby's insane narcissistic tyrannical serial abuser Odin, at least.

Buit he did write Thor's talking like Conan, a holdover from his prior asgard series.