Originally posted by Gecko4lifGet a clue. Next time, try reading the comic. Or the two pages where this "gamma-projection-which-alone-is-responsible-for-continental-damage" wasn't even hurting the people standing next to him. Nice try trying to disassociate WBH's strength feat from him. Crappy maneuver trying to criticize the use of an English word to deflect.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHABludgeoned by energy. Get a dictionary you mook.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Don't be an idiot. Breaking apart portions of a continent by standing still or taking two-three steps is not something to look at and say "he simply wasn't as strong as we thought."We know what WBH looks like. Gamma Energy pouring out in waves and causing massive damage. Don't project two clear as day scenes onto the rest of that fight. ...
He simply wasn't as strong as we thought. Stupidity aside, I don't see how any Hulk fans thought he has going to be actually breaking off pieces of the continent in his return and shit. That's idiotic. Pak's Hulk isn't a murderer. He even went out of his way to create Gamma Supermath -lulz worthy by the way- as to explain why his Hulk never kills people when he strikes buildings and shit.
He was generating some Gamma Energy as we saw. It's obviously not going to be the same as Romita's take however. This argument -at least if it's going where I think it is- is nearly as silly as the Sentry energy vortex one.
I don't see how anyone can deny this was World Breaker. The ending scenes of #610 are clearly meant to signal his arrival. He then calmed down around the time he defeats Skaar. Then he went all feral and shit, knocking Skaar into orbit when he pulled on his heart strings.
All pretty clear shit to me. I hope at the least you can admit he started off as World Breaker.
Pak would have to come out and say otherwise for me to change my mind.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Get a clue. Next time, try reading the comic. Or the two pages where this "gamma-projection-which-alone-is-responsible-for-continental-damage" wasn't even hurting the people standing next to him. Nice try trying to disassociate WBH's strength feat from him. Crappy maneuver trying to criticize the use of an English word to deflect.
You do realize what would happens if the hulk stepped on the ground hard enough to do that right? No actually I suppose you dont considering you dont even have a rudimentary grasp of physics.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus... and that's exactly what he ended up doing were it not for Skaar absorbing all the damage. On-panel.
He simply wasn't as strong as we thought. Stupidity aside, I don't see how any Hulk fans thought he has going to be actually breaking off pieces of the continent in his return and shit. That's idiotic.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusAre you implying now that Hulk can't get angry and pissed off without going into WBH mode? Give me a break.
He simply wasn't as strong as we thought. Stupidity aside, I don't see how any Hulk fans thought he has going to be actually breaking off pieces of the continent in his return and shit. That's idiotic.I don't see how anyone can deny this was World Breaker. The ending scenes of #610 are clearly meant to signal his arrival. He then calmed down around the time he defeats Skaar. Then he went all feral and shit, knocking Skaar into orbit when he pulled on his heart strings.
All pretty clear shit to me. I hope at the least you can admit he started off as World Breaker.
Pak would have to come out and say otherwise for me to change my mind.
Originally posted by Gecko4lifYes. The continent would break apart. As it was doing on-panel. Let's not upgrade to principles of physics when you can't even properly criticize English.
You do realize what would happens if the hulk stepped on the ground hard enough to do that right? No actually I suppose you dont considering you dont even have a rudimentary grasp of physics.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
... and that's exactly what he ended up doing were it not for Skaar absorbing all the damage.Are you saying now that Hulk can't get angry and pissed off without going into WBH mode? Give me a break.
Wasn't Skaar absorbing the kinetic energy created by using the Old Power to move the tectonic plates? I'm assuming Hulk's steps enhanced the effects but it seemd to be credited mostly to the Old Power.
No, I'm not saying that.
But I sure as hell think he went World Breaker when he got angry seeing as how it's post WWH Green Scar, who was further enraged by bringing up memories of Caeira. IRCC, the last time we saw him, the World Breaker seemed to be the go to mode for this persona when enraged by memories of Caeira.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusYou think Skaar was causing all the damage... and then reabsorbing all the damage?
Wasn't Skaar absorbing the kinetic energy created by using the Old Power to move the tectonic plates?No, I'm not saying that.
Well that would be the implication.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusCaiera is not the catalyst for WBH mode. It wasn't the first time, it wasn't this time. The first was Miek's betrayal. Which reduced his entire drive for righteous vengeance/justice into a sham and he had nobody to blame but himself for it. The second was Bruce having to absorb everything the Leader's Cathexis Ray wrought.
But I sure as hell think he went World Breaker when he got angry seeing as how it's the Green Scar, who was further enraged by bringing up memories of Caeira. The last time we saw him, the World Breaker seems to be the go to mode for this persona when enraged by memories of Caeira.
Kudos to Hulk, they really managed to make his World Breaker return an epic showing without sacrificing one bit of plot. Just one clearly depicted step and a trillion tons were sent, that's right, just by walking; good think his son kept Earth from falling appart or Marvel would be bye bye.
Also, a pretty emotional showing too. Loved the issue.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympushe was absorbing energies released into the ground by Hulk, that's why they were depicted as green and blue energies cracking up out of the ground.
Wasn't Skaar absorbing the kinetic energy created by using the Old Power to move the tectonic plates? I'm assuming Hulk's steps enhanced the effects but it seemd to be credited mostly to the Old Power.
Skaar took away the energies from the tremors, thus preventing the land from falling into the sea (as the Mayor thought it would do).
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You think Skaar was causing all the damage... and then reabsorbing all the damage?Well that would be the implication. Caiera is not the catalyst for WBH mode. It wasn't the first time, it wasn't this time. The first was Miek's betrayal. Which reduced his entire drive for righteous vengeance/justice into a sham and he had nobody to blame but himself for it. The second was Bruce having to absorb everything the Leader's Cathexis Ray wrought.
It was the catlyst once, very breifly in Skaar 13. but Bruce stopped it ebfore anything happened, that's where Rage gets it from I think.
world breaker had energy emitting from him in both previous occurrences, if it's not there imo there is a case he's not in "world breaker mode". he also seemed to be getting "nicer" as the fight went on, killing his son was not in the playbook
*shrugs*
anyway...
Originally posted by psycho gundam
this should be discussed in the hulk forum
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You think Skaar was causing all the damage... and then reabsorbing all the damage?Well that would be the implication.
That's what I understood from reading this scene:
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Caiera is not the catalyst for WBH mode. It wasn't the first time, it wasn't this time. The first was Miek's betrayal. Which reduced his entire drive for righteous vengeance/justice into a sham and he had nobody to blame but himself for it. The second was Bruce having to absorb everything the Leader's Cathexis Ray wrought.
The last time we saw World Breaker -Skaar #12- was when he remembered Caeira -which caused the Green Scar to emerge- and then went feral, declaring he was the World Breaker.
Do you know why Miek's actions were so painful? What his betrayal caused?
Caeira's death has been the main driving force behind Green Scar as far as I can tell. Hence the last scenes -Hulk being with Caeira- in World War Hulk.
In my opinion, that should have been the end of the Green Scar persona. F*ck the fanboys.
True, this time he reached the World Breaker levels due to the large influx of energy but I don't see how that takes away from his feelings of Caeira.
I'm not arguing she's the catalyst for the process -dumping large amounts of energy into Banner etc. seems to work as well- but if there's one way to get Green Scar angry, it's tugging on his feelings with Caeira. Which is why Skaar brought her up as far as I can tell. He knows he'd get riled if he mentioned her.
The Green Scar was my favorite Hulk persona. I honestly really liked him. I feel....conflicted, arguing against him.
I'd be happy if it was revealed not to be the true World Breaker (A bit dissapointed as it wouldn't crush the dreams of Gammtards world wide) but as far as I can tell, it was.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Get a clue. Next time, try reading the comic. Or the two pages where this "gamma-projection-which-alone-is-responsible-for-continental-damage" wasn't even hurting the people standing next to him.
Going by that train of thought, I would think that if he was stomping down on the ground with enough force to break the continent in two, that impact would kill everything around him as well as level the city if not a much larger radius.