Originally posted by Parmaniac
So much for MA > Spidey 😎
He dodged the web-line, yeah. But I wouldnt call it a sucker shot. Spider-man tossed a group of ninjas aside and then attacked Daredevil. It's not like he attacked from behind or something. Also there's the fact that DD without a second thought attacked both IF and Shang at the same time but chose not to fight Spider-man after taking the kick and asked Mary for help.😄
Originally posted by SamZED
He dodged the web-line, yeah. But I wouldnt call it a sucker shot. Spider-man tossed a group of ninjas aside and then attacked Daredevil. It's not like he attacked from behind or something. Also there's the fact that DD without a second thought attacked both IF and Shang at the same time but chose not to fight Spider-man after taking the kick and asked Mary for help.😄
Though I completely agree that Spiderman would beat DD every time however.
Spidermans lines make me chuckle.
PS: anyone elses think punisher kidna looks asian in that scan?
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganTo me it kinda looked like he jumped from behind IF, its just those ninja were all over the place. But imo it doesnt matter, with DD's radar, he "saw" Spider-man coming eitherway.
I dont think that proves spiderman >MA. It was a sucker punch, I mean even looking at IF placement you can see he was clearly engaging DD when Spiderman kick him from the side. I dont think him telling mary to deal with spiderman really had anything to do with DD him self not wishing to engage spiderman, I simply think he new Mary powers would easily put spiderman down.I can see how that would in any way shape or form prove Spiderman>MA.
Though I completely agree that Spiderman would beat DD every time however.
C'mone, man. You know we are NOT seriously saying that this single scan is a one definite proof that Spider-man can take any MA no matter what powers he has. I could post a few dozen scans of Spider-man beating trained MA fighters if I wanted. But that's not the point. It's just with all this "Any MA > Spider-man" nonsense going on on KMC I thought it's nice to have an example of Spider-man kicking an upgraded MA in the face.😄
But I do think DD wanted to avoid fighting Spider-man. Mary's powers could easilly put IF and Shang down as well, but he didn't ask for her help then.
Originally posted by Dum Dum Dugan
PS: anyone elses think punisher kidna looks asian in that scan?
Originally posted by SamZED
To me it kinda looked like he jumped from behind IF, its just those ninja were all over the place. But imo it doesnt matter, with DD's radar, he "saw" Spider-man coming eitherway.C'mone, man. You know we are NOT seriously saying that this single scan is a one definite proof that Spider-man can take any MA no matter what powers he has. I could post a few dozen scans of Spider-man beating trained MA fighters if I wanted. But that's not the point. It's just with all this "Any MA > Spider-man" nonsense going on on KMC I thought it's nice to have an example of Spider-man kicking an upgraded MA in the face.😄
But I do think DD wanted to avoid fighting Spider-man. Mary's powers could easilly put IF and Shang down as well, but he didn't ask for her help then.
LOL Yes. Didnt pay attention at first.
I know I just saying even in ajoking senses, I dident think that was impressive at all. All he did was kick DD who was already fighting IF. If anything I say it more a feat for DD, becuase he some how manage to withstand a double kick from Spiderman and then was able to dodge his webbing. Which is kinda crazy sinces he just got hit by 10 plus tons of force. Though I wanna be clear I am not trying to bash Spiderman, I just did not find it to be impressive example and as you stated there a numerous better showings he has had against MAers. I really like that he shot his webbing at DD, thats something I feel he never attempts very oftens against MA's but would be an easy way for him to claim victory. or at the very least an advantage.
As for the MA>Spiderman, true I agree it nonsenses. Spiderman has more difficulties with highly skilled individuals but it in no way means they beat him. To be honest 95% of the time I seeing MA>Spiderman come up, it people whining about people arguing that, but I never actaully see anyone try and make that arguement.
lol I at first thought it wasent even Frank, but someone elses taking his mantle. Spidermans lines are so funny, he been really cracking me up lately. He has some great lines in New Avengers.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganYeah, agreed, that example would've worked much better if they just fought 1 on 1. I dont think Spider-man hit him with 10 kick though, he barely attacks even supervillains with full force and Matt is a friend.
But he was engaging IF at the time, it not like it was simply him vs Spiderman and spiderman nailed him. It was DD vs IF and spiderman came from his right and kicked him.I know I just saying even in ajoking senses, I dident think that was impressive at all. All he did was kick DD who was already fighting IF. If anything I say it more a feat for DD, becuase he some how manage to withstand a double kick from Spiderman and then was able to dodge his webbing. Which is kinda crazy sinces he just got hit by 10 plus tons of force. Though I wanna be clear I am not trying to bash Spiderman, I just did not find it to be impressive example and as you stated there a numerous better showings he has had against MAers. I really like that he shot his webbing at DD, thats something I feel he never attempts very oftens against MA's but would be an easy way for him to claim victory. or at the very least an advantage.
As for the MA>Spiderman, true I agree it nonsenses. Spiderman has more difficulties with highly skilled individuals but it in no way means they beat him. To be honest 95% of the time I seeing MA>Spiderman come up, it people whining about people arguing that, but I never actaully see anyone try and make that arguement.
lol I at first thought it wasent even Frank, but someone elses taking his mantle. Spidermans lines are so funny, he been really cracking me up lately. He has some great lines in New Avengers.
I normally wouldnt complain about this kinda thing, its just I few times I actually had to argue that Spider-man wont lose to a peak human athlete with some MA training just because he always loses to MA, it's pretty irratating.
lol Yeah he makes lotsa DC references lately. And remember the conversation they had after Logan stabbed a deamon possesed Doc Strange? It was short but made me lol for some reason.
Spider-Man would win against any MA on EARTH because he's far stronger, and far more resistant that many of them. And probably faster too. I only gives Wolverine a majority against Spider-Man in the great martial artists based on Earth.
That said, I would LOVE to see how much time it'd takes to Gamora, Mantis or Moondragon to completly **** up Spider-Man.
Edit: And Punisher is a badass.
Originally posted by SamZED
Yeah, agreed, that example would've worked much better if they just fought 1 on 1. I dont think Spider-man hit him with 10 kick though, he barely attacks even supervillains with full force and Matt is a friend.I normally wouldnt complain about this kinda thing, its just I few times I actually had to argue that Spider-man wont lose to a peak human athlete with some MA training just because he always loses to MA, it's pretty irratating.
lol Yeah he makes lotsa DC references lately. And remember the conversation they had after Logan stabbed a deamon possesed Doc Strange? It was short but made me lol for some reason.
I did not mean you at all, I ment in general, I should have clarified. Thats rediculous, spiderman would stomp a peak human who had some MA training.
Yea that was so funny. His general interactions with the avengers teams he on make me lol. Him an hawlk eye are so funny togather, as are him an Logan.
Originally posted by Dum Dum DuganAh sorry thought you meant me. lol Yeah those are the best.
true.I did not mean you at all, I ment in general, I should have clarified. Thats rediculous, spiderman would stomp a peak human who had some MA training.
Yea that was so funny. His general interactions with the avengers teams he on make me lol. Him an hawlk eye are so funny togather, as are him an Logan.
Originally posted by MshinuSince when saying that is a "Spider-man fans" thing? 😕 And yeah, sometimes it does.😏
This is why I love spider fans, landing one hit means you`ve kicked the crap out of someone.Arguing a peak human with "some" MA training would take out spidey is pretty silly. It takes way more than that.
Originally posted by SamZED
Ah sorry thought you meant me. lol Yeah those are the best.Since when saying that is a "Spider-man fans" thing? 😕 And yeah, sometimes it does.😏
That was priceless lol. what issue is that from I don't remember that scene. I love the text me when your done line, that serously made me lol.