Character Ownage

Started by CosmicComet5,121 pages

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I respectfully disagree with this.

Personally, I would thought that instead of striking Thing from behind with such force to literally carve a hole through him, he could have easily knocked him to the side or sent Mjolnir around to his grip to defend himself from the onslaught or exhaust other options before going straight for the mortally wounding tactic. At least with Janet, it was confirmed by Iron Man that the energy leak coming from Janet was way too unstable and spilling forth with such frenzy that Thor's BFRing/"mercy kill" was literally the only valid option left.

And if we look at Sentry during Siege, Thor didn't even want to kill him initially and he had destroyed his home and killed his brother. It just seems to me that under Fraction, Thor is way too quick to go for critically maiming/outright killing his foes, to say nothing of his dialogue at times.

Perhaps Fraction will argue that ever since Siege, Thor was nudged over the edge and gradually became more willing to kill to avoid similar situations.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I respectfully disagree with this.

Personally, I would thought that instead of striking Thing from behind with such force to literally carve a hole through him, he could have easily knocked him to the side or sent Mjolnir around to his grip to defend himself from the onslaught or exhaust other options before going straight for the mortally wounding tactic. At least with Janet, it was confirmed by Iron Man that the energy leak coming from Janet was way too unstable and spilling forth with such frenzy that Thor's BFRing/"mercy kill" was literally the only valid option left.

And if we look at Sentry during Siege, Thor didn't even want to kill him initially and he had destroyed his home and killed his brother. It just seems to me that under Fraction, Thor is way too quick to go for critically maiming/outright killing his foes, to say nothing of his dialogue at times.

He tried to knock Ben out from the get-go and go H2H against Worthy Hulk. If you notice, that didn't work out too well for him. Every second Thor didn't have Mjolnir in hand or was holding back his full power, was another second of Thor risking losing the fight. He couldn't lose the fight. And I didn't see Thor's chances against the duo being very realistic while he "exhausts other options." The exact opposite in fact.

Thor failing to kill Sentry in their first skirmish =/= Thor holding back his power and sparing Sentry. Thor's killed before when he's had to. When he realizes there's too much at stake and there aren't any realistic options left. I think you're all disappointed that Worthy Hulk and Thing presented just such an obstacle (bore out on-panel) and Thor realized it quickly.

And color me skeptical that you'd all be happier with an internal thought bubble from Thor reading something like, "The two of you are far too much for even me. Forgive me, Ben. And curse me for lacking the power to see this battle through another way. You will be avenged."

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Perhaps Fraction will argue that ever since Siege, Thor was nudged over the edge and gradually became more willing to kill to avoid similar situations.

An explanation of any kind would be nice, but as of now, we've really not had one.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Kieron Gillen is amazing. Magneto chucks a Hellicarrier at Juggernaut and Pixie can't BFR him.
When did this happen.

I don't remember reading this?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
He tried to knock Ben out from the get-go and go H2H against Worthy Hulk. If you notice, that didn't work out too well for him. Every second Thor didn't have Mjolnir in hand or was holding back his full power, was another second of Thor risking losing the fight. He couldn't lose the fight. And I didn't see Thor's chances against the duo being very realistic while he "exhausts other options." The exact opposite in fact.

Thor failing to kill Sentry in their first skirmish =/= Thor holding back his power and sparing Sentry. Thor's killed before when he's had to. When he realizes there's too much at stake and there aren't any realistic options left. I think you're all disappointed that Worthy Hulk and Thing presented just such an obstacle (bore out on-panel) and Thor realized it quickly.

And color me skeptical that you'd all be happier with an internal thought bubble from Thor reading something like, "The two of you are far too much for even me. Forgive me, Ben. And curse me for lacking the power to see this battle through another way. You will be avenged."

I'm not disappointed for Thor having trouble with Worthy Hulk and Thing at all. They have Asgardian weapons and are out for blood; I'd be pissed if they weren't threats to Thor.

And actually, if Thor thought something like that I'd be happier than dialogue along the lines of "you've always been a pain in the ass" or "You! Will! Die!" or calling someone a bastard 87 times.

I get that Thor kills when it's absolutely nessacary. I just feel that Fraction is trying to make Thor "badass" and is compromising his sense of nobility in the process.

thor didn't have a problem killing a couple mutants during the mutant massacre, ben was different

To be fair, the more I think about it, the less problem I have with it. I think my biggest problem was that the scene didn't have as much impact as it should.

Whatever, I'm hung over, this crap is hurting my head.

hurry up guy, i can't wait any longer for these delicious scans

Shameless.

Originally posted by vansonbee
This feels like the day before Christmas! 😱

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Good showing ^ Look how amp and huge Zeus is! 😂

i goth nuthin

Originally posted by CosmicComet
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To bad Hulk admitted that he has been holding back his power all of this time.

What? You think Zeus was going all out? 😂

If that Hulk spoilers shit from earlier holds true, I'm hopping into the next bottle of 151.

Originally posted by Harbinger
If that Hulk spoilers shit from earlier holds true, I'm hopping into the next bottle of 151.

LOL... you might as well get the hopping because it was truel 😂

He shitted on his own past stories and concepts because Hulk fans were butthurt. Ridiculous. His not a writer anymore. His a battle board poster given control over a book.

As a Thor fan, I should be pulling on my collar right now, but it was so fanboyish that I can't even take it seriously and I know very few people will. When hardcore Hulk fans thinks he needs to tone it down, then you know shit has gone too far.

Pak lets board attitudes heavily influence his writing. I can't believe Marvel allows that.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
What? You think Zeus was going all out? 😂
He even handicapped himself carver just loves green meat

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He shitted on his own past stories and concepts because Hulk fans were butthurt. Utterly ridiculous. His not a writer anymore. His a battle board poster given control over a book.

As a Thor fan, I should be pulling on my collar right now, but it was so fanboyish that I can't even take it seriously. Few people will.

Why not take it seriously ? It's canon is it not ? You can do your best to try to ignore it but then again it's canon like it or not.