Character Ownage

Am I the only one pissed off that Thor so calmly unleashed a fatal attack on the Thing? The dialogue was also painful at times, ugh.

Onto more fanboyish things. Power wise, Thor looked incredible imho, taking on, holding his own, and winning against an amped up Thing/Hulk is crazy impressive. Thing was bumped up to like elite Top Tier/High Herald levels and Hulk was at that point regularly.

Am I the only one who noticed that Thor won the Hulk/Thor exchange? Hulk also struck Thor in the end there, but was overpowered. Thor kicked it up a notch however.

If you had asked someone if Thor could beat a regular Hulk/Thing team up, the answer would be hell no to put it in perspective.

There is going to be a shit storm though. Thor fans are going to be PISSED. Like blood thirsty pissed, at the comment that is. Mostly because of Hulk fans. Personally, I hope his referring to the Worthy Hulk but it could just as easily be Hulk overall.

There's probably going to be some new development in the next issue. Fraction commented that Thor was injured in an interview so I expect that to be mentioned next issue.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Am I the only one pissed off that Thor so calmly unleashed a fatal attack on the Thing? The dialogue was also painful at times, ugh.

Onto more fanboyish things. Power wise, Thor looked incredible imho, taking on, holding his own, and winning against an amped up Thing/Hulk is crazy impressive. Thing was bumped up to like elite Top Tier/High Herald levels and Hulk was also at that point regularly.

Am I the only one who noticed that Thor won the Hulk/Thor exchange? Hulk also struck Thor in the end there, but was overpowered. Like I said, crazy impressive.

If you had asked someone if Thor could beat a regular Hulk/Thing team up, the answer would be hell no to put it in perspective.

There is going to be a shit storm though. Thor fans are going to be PISSED. Like blood thirsty pissed, at the comment that is. Mostly because of Hulk fans. Personally, I hope his referring to the Worthy Hulk but it could just as easily be Hulk overall.

There's probably going to be some new development in the next issue. Fraction commented that Thor was injured in an interview so I expect that to be mentioned next issue.

No, Thor maiming Thing was bullshit and OOC as a whole. Kicking his ass, sure, that's one thing. Blasting a hole through him and leaving him to die? Fraction's pissing me off with his characterization.

Why would it be referring to just worthy hulk? when he said 'i never could'? Which implies the past as well.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Why would it be referring to just worthy hulk? when he said 'i never could'? Which implies the past as well.

I don't know, Fraction's dialogue when it comes to Thor is so off that I can hope.

It does seem a bit much to me though. Admitting he could never beat Hulk? Not only is that untrue, it's a bit off. At the very least, Thor's not arrogant anymore.

The worst part about this is that Hulk fans will use that little comment to take away from the fact that Thor went toe to toe with an amped Hulk/Thing, and won. He would have lost eventually if he kept trading blows with the Hulk but so what? So many Hulk fans have argued that Thor couldn't even hold his own against an unamped current Hulk.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't know, Fraction's dialogue when it comes to Thor is so off that I can hope.

It does seem a bit much to me though. Admitting he could never beat Hulk? Not only is that untrue, it's a bit off. At the very least, Thor's not arrogant anymore.

Originally posted by HueyFreeman
It seemed like he was goading hulk to attack him head on to me.

That is what I got from it, but I was told I was giving the writter too much credit =\

Reading too much into Fraction's dialogue is haphazard at best. It's obvious to many posters here that his Thor is...off. Regardless, it's a single statement from a single writer. It's by no means damning evidence, especially when you look at what actually happened.

If we assume that Thor totally and utterly meant he could never beat Hulk period, looking at previous fights and history, we know that's untrue.

Besides that ridiculous statment from Thor im kinda happy with the result. Thor overpowered hulk and shot him into space. Hulk was Ko'd while up there and only woke up while he was hurtling back to Earth. 🙂 im fine with it. (for the most part)

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't know, Fraction's dialogue when it comes to Thor is so off that I can hope.

It does seem a bit much to me though. Admitting he could never beat Hulk? Not only is that untrue, it's a bit off. At the very least, Thor's not arrogant anymore.

I suppose, I mean, Fraction has Thor badly hurt Galactus, but has him claim he could never beat the Hulk.

Something doesn't add up, but I don't think he was trying to make some subtle intent for Thor saying that either.

Anyway, phuck Fraction. 😄

All the writter did was give Hulk fanboys a reason not to kill him on the spot for having Hulk's amped green butt go out for a global ride.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
I suppose, I mean, Fraction has Thor badly hurt Galactus, but has him claim he could never beat the Hulk.

Something doesn't add up, but I don't think he was trying to make some subtle intent for Thor saying that either.

Anyway, phuck Fraction. 😄

My opinion?

So many people were confused as to how Thor could go toe to toe against an amped Hulk/Thing, feared the shit storm and got a bit cautious. Hence the line.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Anyway, phuck Fraction. 😄

Pretty much.

Let's count our blessings and be thankful Bendis isn't handling Fear Itself though.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
All the writter did was give Hulk fanboys a reason not to kill themselves on the spot for having Hulk's amped green butt go out for a global ride.

Fixed. biscuits

Originally posted by Zack Fair
That is what I got from it, but I was told I was giving the writter too much credit =\

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Pretty much.

Let's count our blessings and be thankful Bendis isn't handling Fear Itself though.

I think having someone like Clint soloing everybody would be kinda fun. : p

Bendis is a hack, but its so over the top that it becomes amusing.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Pretty much.

Let's count our blessings and be thankful Bendis isn't handling Fear Itself though.

I'm surprised so many people are characterizing Thor's attitude as callous. Ben, like all the Worthy, was too far gone and he was a huge problem. The heroes are at war, and the amount of collateral damage in terms of innocents dying is staggering. Usually, comics go out of their way to depicting this sort of mayhem in events.

And I never thought for one instant Thor's actions were tantamount to casual murder. When he closed his eyes and summoned Mjolnir to strike Ben, I took that as being a solemn personal pause and/or Thor not wanting to see him mortally wounded. How many times as he cried out with aplomb, "To me, mighty Mjolnir!!!1" Hell, he did that just a few panels earlier, even. Thor couldn't hold back anymore, he couldn't afford to. And he let Worthy Hulk know that Thor wouldn't have issues preserving that attitude against him; Thor wasn't relishing the escalation in violence.

Frankly, Thor "casually murdered" Worthy Thing about as much as he "casually murdered" booby-trapped Wasp in Secret Invasion.

Saw scans of the new Incredible Hulk issue. LMFAO.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I'm surprised so many people are characterizing Thor's attitude as callous. Ben, like all the Worthy, was too far gone and he was a huge problem. The heroes are at war, and the amount of collateral damage in terms of innocents dying is staggering. Usually, comics go out of their way to depicting this sort of mayhem in events.

And I never thought for one instant Thor's actions were tantamount to casual murder. When he closed his eyes and summoned Mjolnir to strike Ben, I took that as being a solemn pause and/or Thor not wanting to see him mortally wounded. Thor couldn't hold back anymore, he couldn't afford to. And he let Worthy Hulk know that Thor wouldn't have issues preserving that attitude against him.

Frankly, Thor "casually murdered" Worthy Thing about as much as he "casually murdered" booby-trapped Wasp in Secret Invasion.

I respectfully disagree with this.

Personally, I would thought that instead of striking Thing from behind with such force to literally carve a hole through him, he could have easily knocked him to the side or sent Mjolnir around to his grip to defend himself from the onslaught or exhaust other options before going straight for the mortally wounding tactic. At least with Janet, it was confirmed by Iron Man that the energy leak coming from Janet was way too unstable and spilling forth with such frenzy that Thor's BFRing/"mercy kill" was literally the only valid option left.

And if we look at Sentry during Siege, Thor didn't even want to kill him initially and he had destroyed his home and killed his brother. It just seems to me that under Fraction, Thor is way too quick to go for critically maiming/outright killing his foes, to say nothing of his dialogue at times.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
All the writter did was give Hulk fanboys a reason not to kill him on the spot for having Hulk's amped green butt go out for a global ride.