Teens Arrested in Alleged Massacre Plot

From Yahoo.

It never ceases to amaze me when they find this stuff in kids homes. Where the FECK are their IDIOT parents?

ANCASTER, Calif. - Two teenagers were in custody for allegedly plotting to carry out a Columbine-like massacre at their former high school next Valentine's Day, authorities said.

The former Quartz Hill High students, whose names were not released, were arrested Thursday after searches of their homes turned up knives, ammunition, a gas mask and bomb-making instructions downloaded from the Internet, according to the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department.

They were being held at the Sylmar Juvenile Detention Center for investigation of making terrorist threats, Brown said.

"I've been working with schools for eight years, and we have hoaxes all the time, but this is the first time that I thought, 'Oops, this one could really happen,'" sheriff's Sgt. Darrel Brown said Friday. "You could see they were preparing meticulously, taking things step by step."

The boys, ages 17 and 15, had been transferred from Quartz Hill to other schools for disciplinary reasons, authorities said.

Brown said an investigation began Wednesday when a student contacted the school's vice principal and said the former classmates were planning a "Columbine-style assault" on the campus. The student said she had learned about it second-hand.

The boys told investigators that they planned to kill Quartz Hill students who had made fun of them, using guns and homemade explosives, then commit suicide, Brown said.

On Friday, deputies at the sheriff's station in Lancaster displayed a page from the 15-year-old's notebook with the scrawled message: "When I'm God, everyone dies."

The notebook was accompanied by a three-ring binder with pictures of Columbine High School killers Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh and murderer Charles Manson.

Deputies said they found a black trench coat at one boy's home, possibly to be used in imitation of the similarly-dressed Columbine killers, and the 15-year-old boy had carved the word "hate" into his forearm, authorities alleged.

I hope they spend a long time in that correctional facility. This is serious.

smart kids huh

Where are their parents? They're 17 and 15. Not 6 and 4.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Where are their parents? They're 17 and 15. Not 6 and 4.

-AC

See I almost think in cases like this that the parent should ALSO face prosecution.

Why? They're way old enough to know what they're doing. Especially the 17 year old.

Stop looking to blame the parents also. Blame the kids, they did it.

-AC

Oh no, no. Simply because your child is 17 doesn't mean they STOP being your responsibility when they live under your roof. Sorry that argument doesn't hold water.

There's a big difference, you should know this.

A 17 year old being the "responsibility" of a parent just because they are one year away from being legal and a 17 year old not being responsible for their actions are two different things. They knew exactly what they were doing when they plotted the massacre.

You say blind things like "Where are the parents?" What do you mean? You think it went like this:

Mum: How was school, honey?
Kid: B*tchin'! We planned a massacre of our own free will!
Mum: Awww.

What do you mean "Where are the parents"? Obviously not aware that their kids are planning a massacre. Why does that indicate they should be held responsible? The kids obviously didn't do it with Mum's approval did they?

YOUR argument holds no water.

-AC

Just how many children do you have? MY point is, if a child lives under a parents roof then it is said parents responsibility to know what the hell said child has stored under the parents roof. And if they don't they are irresponsible PERIOD.

It doesn't matter how many children I have does it? What matters is that you asked where the parents are.

If a parent has no reason to believe that their child is plotting, oh I dunno, a massacre (cos it's a regular thing kids do these days isn't it?) why should they check on it? Not every parent checks every aspect of their kids lives. Purely because once kids reach a certain age, they keep a lot to themselves. I know because I've done it, yet I was raise perfectly well by my parents. Moreover, if you sanely have to think "Better go check on Timmy incase he's planning anything untoward and massacre-esque" then you've obviously failed as a parent anyway, in your opinion, right?

Your argument is leaking faster than a crone on imodium.

-AC

A 17 year old will do what they want, though, regardless of the parents, and are old enough to know what they're doing. I believe that's AC's point. Face it, parents aren't going to know everything the kid's up to at that age - can you honestly say that your parents knew every single thing you did when you were a teenager?

AC, because until you've BEEN a parent you are fairly clueless as to how that whole scenario operates now aren't you? 🙄

And I always knew what was going on UNDER my roof with my 2 oldest kids while they lived under my roof. I think the very fact that you have to use such gross and insulting comments like the latter proves you don't have what it takes to continue an adult conversation, therefore until someone comes along who can I'll be on my way. Have nice day now ya hear? And yes Lana they did actually.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

Your argument is leaking faster than a crone on imodium.

Technically, Imodium prevents leakage. Poor reference.

Unless you are making defamatory claims about the performance of said pharmaceutical. In which case, expect a legal letter henceforth.

yah i agree. Where are those parents? ITs called negligence. How do you not know whats going on in your kids life? How do you not see the word HATE carved into his arm? Or homemade bomb instructions lying around in their room?...answer? parents are not in those kids lives..or not enough so that that this could have been prevented.

I mean come on. I live 400 miles away from my mom and dad and they call me up all the time. I'm 20 theyre still very much a part of my life.

Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
AC, because until you've BEEN a parent you are fairly clueless as to how that whole scenario operates now aren't you? 🙄

And I always knew what was going on UNDER my roof with my 2 oldest kids while they lived under my roof. I think the very fact that you have to use such gross and insulting comments like the latter proves you don't have what it takes to continue an adult conversation, therefore until someone comes along who can I'll be on my way. Have nice day now ya here? And yes Lana they did actually.

Then I do believe that you are the exception to the rule.

No doubt a1. And no I'm not, I know plenty of people that raise their children that way Lana. But then you and I have had this whole arguement once before (remember the locks on kids doors thread? 😂 🙂

Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
Because until you've BEEN a parent you are fairly clueless as to how that whole scenario operates now aren't you? 🙄

No, not at all. That's the belief of self-righteous parents who aren't willing to admit that anyone else who hasn't shared in the "amazing" experience of having a kid, has a valid opinion on raising one. Apparantly you share this. Nothing I'm saying is invalid and nothing you've said makes any kind of relevant or realistic sense. So maybe rethink your stance.

Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
And I always knew what was going on UNDER my roof with my 2 oldest kids while they lived under my roof. I think the very fact that you have to use such gross and insulting comment like the latter proves you don't have what it takes to continue an adult conversation, there fore until someone comes along who can I'll be on my way. Have nice day now ya her?

In your house, yes. In their minds? No. You may like to think so, but no. Because you're not psychic are you? No.

Don't use that lame excuse just because you've been exposed as the bearer or a faulty, self-righteous point of view by someone who's younger than you. It's not gonna garner you any respect.

The fact is, you said the parents are to blame. Why? Because you happened to have no trouble with your kids? Not all parents are as psychic as you. Your argument is flawed.

They're 17 and 14, not 6 and 4 as I previously said.

-AC

Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
AC, because until you've BEEN a parent you are fairly clueless as to how that whole scenario operates now aren't you? 🙄

This seems more as if you're simply laughing it off/ignoring what AC than an actual response.

I think the more apposite accusation towards the parents is lack of a good upbringing, thereby fostering a child capable of such acts.

I don't believe, however, that once such damage has been done, a parent or parents can realistically keep tabs on everything that a child may do.