Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm................. 😖hifty:
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm................. 😖hifty:
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Originally posted by snoopdogg
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm................. 😖hifty:http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/uncannyxmenannual07page152yo.jpg
Very nice there, Snoop. Colossus didn't seem to be too worried there at all. I know it's an old comic, but still shows that he is better fit to take her out than vice versa.
And why did she call him shorty? In his transformed state, Piotr's 7'5".
Originally posted by MetalmanxI don't know why she called him that.
Very nice there, Snoop. Colossus didn't seem to be too worried there at all. I know it's an old comic, but still shows that he is better fit to take her out than vice versa.And why did she call him shorty? In his transformed state, Piotr's 7'5".
Colossus' fighting skills are underrated I think.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
I don't believe I'm alone in saying that it's a fact that:Colosuss invulnerability>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Shulkie's healing factor and durability.
Okay, let's assume this is true (but take away She-Hulk's HF).
Since She-Hulk is stronger, then her punches to Colosuss would still have about the same effect as Colosuss's punches to her. This is because since she hits harder and he has a higher durability, then the damage done to him per hit would be say X. But since Colossus hits weaker than her and She-Hulk's durability is less than his then the damage done to her per hit would be X as well (Thus equal). Thus this fight is about equal. But since She-Hulk has a HF and would be healing throughout the fight while Colossus would be staying damaged then She-Hulk has the edge here.
Now let's assume that this is true by a little more (meaning that Colossus registers X+1 damage to She-Hulk and She-Hulk only registers X damage to Colosuss per hit).
But by She-Hulk having a HF then the only way to overcome her is to do more damage faster than she can heal from. Now I'm not sure if Colossus is fast enough to do this (because he would be getting hit back as well). On the other hand, if Colossus gets damaged (no matter how small) then he stays damaged (at least for that fight). So even if She-Hulk does little by little damage to him then it still adds up to be ko in the end. And this is versus Colossus doing a little more damage to her per hit but she healing from it back to normal for 0 net effect.
Now if you had nigh-invulnerability and you were going up against a force that was able to damage you (such as She-Hulk) then you would easily prefer to have your durability taken back a notch back to say "high-invulnerability" instead and acquire a strong HF with it. So I don't quite believe you when you say that you would rather have nigh-invulnerability over high-invulnerability with a strong HF. Now if there exists nothing that can damage you with the nigh-invulnerability then of course you and I would choose it over the other with HF.
Colossus wins imo. As he is already shown to be able to handle her. Granted she has gone through some changes but don't forget so has Colossus.
Originally posted by Dr.CrankensteinYea She-Hulk was put down from a single swipe that would not have even effected Colossus at all.
Actually, going back and looking at it She-Hulk passed out from being slashed in the gut.I'd still give her the win though. She is stronger, better fighter, faster.
Originally posted by Dr.Crankenstein
Actually, going back and looking at it She-Hulk passed out from being slashed in the gut.I'd still give her the win though. She is stronger, better fighter, faster.
That could be a low showing of her HF right?
But punching someone is different than slashing them right?
Originally posted by juggernaut74
WWHulk put her down just by slammin her into the city street. WWHulk nailed Colossus a few times and he was back on his feet quickly.
True that Colossus can take a koing hit better than She-Hulk. But I'm speaking in terms of non-koing hits, or where the damage done to her isn't so one-shottish. Because Colossus won't be one-shotting her for sure. Now by the damage being small enough for her to heal in time (she gains time by hitting Colossus back) then her overall durability exceeds his.
Originally posted by h1a8
True that Colossus can take a koing hit better than She-Hulk. But I'm speaking in terms of non-koing hits, or where the damage done to her isn't so one-shottish. Because Colossus won't be one-shotting her for sure. Now by the damage being small enough for her to heal in time (she gains time by hitting Colossus back) then her overall durability exceeds his.
...But what damage is she doing to him? That's what I've been trying to figure out for 2+ years now. What damage will she cause that other, stronger foes have not been able to do to Colossus?
Originally posted by Metalmanx
...But what damage is she doing to him? That's what I've been trying to figure out for 2+ years now. What damage will she cause that other, stronger foes have not been able to do to Colossus?
Its fair to say that She-Hulk is strong enough to damage him. I hope your not debating this. Even if she damages him in small amounts then it still adds up (because he don't have a HF).
Originally posted by h1a8
Its fair to say that She-Hulk is strong enough to damage him. I hope your not debating this. Even if she damages him in small amounts then it still adds up (because he don't have a HF).
Thing is, I AM debating this. To my knowledge, hardly anyone has done any REAL lasting (or even minor) damage to Colossus (via physical strength) besides the recent World War Hulk issue where Hulk bends and crumples Colossus' hands. I don't argue at all that WWHulk can do that. HOWEVER, I do argue that She-Hulk can do that. I don't believe she has anywhere near the strength to do that to Colossus, especially if he's actually fighting back.
Healing factors are nice and all, but they're not the end-all-say-all in a fight. They can easily be overloaded with enough damage. Plus, I don't recall her healing factor to ever be that incredible, unless there are some good examples that I have missed. I even just checked her respect thread, but couldn't find any good examples of this healing factor.
Colossus has the tools to take her down. Colossus FTW 7/10.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Thing is, I AM debating this. To my knowledge, hardly anyone has done any REAL lasting (or even minor) damage to Colossus (via physical strength) besides the recent World War Hulk issue where Hulk bends and crumples Colossus' hands. I don't argue at all that WWHulk can do that. HOWEVER, I do argue that She-Hulk can do that. I don't believe she has anywhere near the strength to do that to Colossus, especially if he's actually fighting back.Healing factors are nice and all, but they're not the end-all-say-all in a fight. They can easily be overloaded with enough damage. Plus, I don't recall her healing factor to ever be that incredible, unless there are some good examples that I have missed. I even just checked her respect thread, but couldn't find any good examples of this healing factor.
Colossus has the tools to take her down. Colossus FTW 7/10.
But you are contradicting yourself. If you believe that She-Hulk can't damage Colossus any (even minor) then why give him 7/10? Wouldn't it be more like 10/10 in his favor? I think everyone here would disagree on whether She-Hulk could damage Colossus any (even minor). Your are most likely arguing out of at least slight bias don't you think?
Originally posted by h1a8
But you are contradicting yourself. If you believe that She-Hulk can't damage Colossus any (even minor) then why give him 7/10? Wouldn't it be more like 10/10 in his favor? I think [B]everyone here would disagree on whether She-Hulk could damage Colossus any (even minor). Your are most likely arguing out of at least slight bias don't you think? [/B]
I have my reasons. I give She-Hulk the 3/10 just for the sheer chance that she could BFR Colossus. Or happen to find some adamantium claws lying around for her to use. Things like that. I try to keep an open mind about these scenarios. Never know what could happen.
Think about it like this. The Hulk cannot hurt Mr. Immortal at all, but Mr. Immortal cannot do a damn thing to Hulk. The durability advantage does not necessarily give him the win. It's just a nice advantage that he has over the Hulk that MIGHT prove to be useful.
In Colossus' case, his durability advantage is and will be useful in this fight. In my opinion, Colossus takes the majority.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
I have my reasons. I give She-Hulk the 3/10 just for the sheer chance that she could BFR Colossus. Or happen to find some adamantium claws lying around for her to use. Things like that. I try to keep an open mind about these scenarios. Never know what could happen.Think about it like this. The Hulk cannot hurt Mr. Immortal at all, but Mr. Immortal cannot do a damn thing to Hulk. The durability advantage does not necessarily give him the win. It's just a nice advantage that he has over the Hulk that MIGHT prove to be useful.
In Colossus' case, his durability advantage is and will be useful in this fight. In my opinion, Colossus takes the majority.
😆 "BFR colossus and find adamantium claws lying around".
Good one! I'll let you get away with that. Colossus wins (unless She-Hulk is very mad!).
