For some reason when I first read the title I got an image of Bush on some cable DIY show, teaching us all how to tap a bit of wire with a small hammer....
Bush: Now, raise the hammer slowley, not to fast or to high, or you might hit yourself in the face like I just did, and then tap it, don't hit, this is wire tapping. Now here's one I prepared earlier...
Well, I mean, they have to keep him entertained somehow don't they? And he is a bit old to really enjoy a good cardboard box...
"...there are such things as roving wiretaps. Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires -- a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so. It's important for our fellow citizens to understand, when you think Patriot Act, constitutional guarantees are in place when it comes to doing what is necessary to protect our homeland, because we value the Constitution." -dubya 4/20/04
must be a misquote from the liberal bias media!!!! no wait...
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/04/20040420-2.html
Read the Q/A section of the article. There are some rather interesting questions regarding the issue.
Originally posted by Mišt
🤨Our government might be a bit of a pain in the ass sometimes, but not as pathetic as the US. So wtf you smoking?
Umm...I think Australia needs to worry more issues like these:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051220/wl_nm/australia_beach_dc_15
Or else they're gonna run into the same issue as the French had this year.
american style democracy is incompatible with the neocon/straussian agenda. only the illusion of democracy in what is essentially a national socialist police state.
typical bush speach: "america terror, terrorism 9/11. Iraq al-quaida, safer terror. freedom safer 9/11, iraq. al-quaida america. nukular america iraq safer. god, evil terror. america."
Originally posted by Darth Jello😂
american style democracy is incompatible with the neocon/straussian agenda. only the illusion of democracy in what is essentially a national socialist police state.
typical bush speach: "america terror, terrorism 9/11. Iraq al-quaida, safer terror. freedom safer 9/11, iraq. al-quaida america. nukular america iraq safer. god, evil terror. america."
I don't know I kind of expected something like this. I mean with all of the stuff that Bush has done alreeady this doesn't suprise me that much. It's also not that unusual really. Plenty of president's have taken away numerous freedoms during war time (or this so called war time). Lincoln took over almost complete power during the civil war and did a bunch of stuff that went against the constituition, that is just what the president and government do during these time periods, whether it's right or not. Of course that's no excuse and he is still going to have to accept responsibility.
Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Can you give examples of the freedoms Lincoln took away? Seriously.
Originally posted by dark99
Oh how about habeus corpus that serious enough for ya. He also just gave away federal money to private industry so that they would make stuff for the union army. He barely consulted Congress on any of this which goes against the constitution as well. His reasoning was that to save the constitution he must break some of it's laws.
Hold up buddy, I was asking "seriously". Stow the attitude.
Habeau Corpus is the right to go before a judge and determine if you are being imprisioned, lawfully.
I am aware that he suspended the right, twice. But it was restored in 1866 I believe. But, I'm unaware that he ever suspended the constituition. He did so, in parts of the country that were in open rebellion. But, I'm unaware of any current situation where any states are in rebellionn.