Originally posted by KidRockOMG! Without wire tapping your whole country would have been taken over by terrorists!
Step 3. terrorists take over the countrystep 4. republicans have to bail dems out of trouble..again.
Whahaha!! The media can make some people believe anything don't they?
Now just convince all the weak minded that human rights should be neglected when dealing with suspects and the police state can be completed! Finally!
Just out of interest, in the US are there safe guards in place if say the elected government does something "unconstitutional"? Or if there is a debate about it is there some body that can look at the matter and say "Yes, that compromises the constitution" or "No, that doesn't"?
For example, in Australia the government has just passed a heap of IR reform legislation, which has created debate and is viewed as potentially unconstitutional. Due to this the State Governments have taken the case to the High Court (the highest court in the land here.) They will look at the constitution, look at what powers the federal government has to make such changes, and then rule whether it is legal and permissible in accordance with constitutional limits... so is such an avenue available in the US?
Originally posted by overlord
OMG! Without wire tapping your whole country would have been taken over by terrorists!Whahaha!! The media can make some people believe anything don't they?
Now just convince all the weak minded that human rights should be neglected when dealing with suspects and the police state can be completed! Finally!
well, america has been overrun by chickenshit hypocrites it seems.
who is it that wants unlimited power given to the federal government?
who is it that wants to get involved with foreign affairs which have no impact on the homeland? who is it that forsaked the warnings of our forfathers in regards to losing the liberties they fought and died for?
and who then turns around and calls everyone else 'pussies' for not cowering and begging for those very liberties to be stripped away?
i though that was the democrats' job? is this role reversal or was it all just bullshit labels?
oh but bush gave us tax cuts...well...he gave the rich tax cuts, based on an econimic theory already proven to be a failure in the 80's. but he did cut taxes...so i guess he's still a republican...right?
Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
Just out of interest, in the US are there safe guards in place if say the elected government does something "unconstitutional"? Or if there is a debate about it is there some body that can look at the matter and say "Yes, that compromises the constitution" or "No, that doesn't"?For example, in Australia the government has just passed a heap of IR reform legislation, which has created debate and is viewed as potentially unconstitutional. Due to this the State Governments have taken the case to the High Court (the highest court in the land here.) They will look at the constitution, look at what powers the federal government has to make such changes, and then rule whether it is legal and permissible in accordance with constitutional limits... so is such an avenue available in the US?
Originally posted by overlord
OMG! Without wire tapping your whole country would have been taken over by terrorists!Whahaha!! The media can make some people believe anything don't they?
Now just convince all the weak minded that human rights should be neglected when dealing with suspects and the police state can be completed! Finally!
If you call human rights just letting terrorists in our front door and greeting them with lots of money human rights then..shit yeah take mine away.
Vote liberal next election and it will be the last we ever have..at least the last free one until we have a Saddam Hussein like run country.
Originally posted by KidRock
If you call human rights just letting terrorists in our front door and greeting them with lots of money human rights then..shit yeah take mine away.Vote liberal next election and it will be the last we ever have..at least the last free one until we have a Saddam Hussein like run country.
If they think that wire taps erode their rights, imagine what 2 million people dyeing in a nuclear fireball would do.
Originally posted by PVS
give me liberty or give me death.part of what america stands for is the iron will to maintain our liberty in spite of fear and TERROR.
or you can just be a pussy and let all your freedom be stripped away.
You are correct, you have the right to die for your rights. Just remember the person who made that statement was later hung by the British. 😄
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
And still do today.We are not on different sides on this issue. All I am saying is things could be worse.
agreed...which is exactly why we shouldnt let it get worse.
or else what are our soldiers enlisted and are dying for?
so a country of scared useless wusses can feel temporarily safe and secure?