Originally posted by id369
Tell me.
How long can Hall last before he runs out of energy I mean dosnt he have a time limit of 24 hrs before the ring loses power?While Cable held in the air for weeks in the air his ship protected with out rest.
1. auto-shield = he doesn't have to even be conscious for it to work.
2. It's different with Cable, because the bigger the output of power, the better it was for him. The more power he had in him aka wasn't using, the more fragile his body became.
3. Hal can last for a long time, mentally. And when the 24 hours pass, he can just speak the magic words like 2 minutes before and then the ring is back in action 😛
4. Who's to say the fight would take that long? I see it ending quite quickly...
Originally posted by Dark Urizen
1. auto-shield = he doesn't have to even be conscious for it to work.2. It's different with Cable, because the bigger the output of power, the better it was for him. The more power he had in him aka wasn't using, the more fragile his body became.
3. Hal can last for a long time, mentally. And when the 24 hours pass, he can just speak the magic words like 2 minutes before and then the ring is back in action 😛
4. Who's to say the fight would take that long? I see it ending quite quickly...
Why wouldnt the match so long to begin with, It is true that GL take on borderline, and true cosmics all the time, but you do see then get thier ass handed to them by Metahuman, (cough cough Deathstroke cough)
Originally posted by The Ion
Why does the Deathstroke incident always come up in GL threads? I never see that mentioned in Flash threads. 😆
Its pointless to argue with any flash Fanboys so I dont waste my time.
But its still a point.
Ok how about the time Doomsday first appeared, I didnt see not one thing spectacular from the GL.
Originally posted by id369
Its pointless to argue with any flash Fanboys so I dont waste my time.But its still a point.
Ok how about the time Doomsday first appeared, I didnt see not one thing spectacular from the GL.
Anyways, Doomsday landed on Oa long ago and evolved past their energy.
Originally posted by id369
Why wouldnt the match so long to begin with, It is true that GL take on borderline, and true cosmics all the time, but you do see then get thier ass handed to them by Metahuman, (cough cough Deathstroke cough)
They have incredible power, to be sure. But they're not goddamn machines. People often make that mistake of assuming just because a character has awesome power he should also be able to use it to the fullest and such. They always forget that GLs (the ones we're interested in usually) are still only human at mind and soul.
SS has had so many years (centuries? thousands of years? who knows?) of experience with the cosmic power, but he makes mistakes all too often, doesn't he? And while he's not human, he's very similar in nature.
You have to take that into account.
Originally posted by Dark Urizen
They have incredible power, to be sure. But they're not goddamn machines. People often make that mistake of assuming just because a character has awesome power he should also be able to use it to the fullest and such. They always forget that GLs (the ones we're interested in usually) are still only human at mind and soul.SS has had so many years (centuries? thousands of years? who knows?) of experience with the cosmic power, but he makes mistakes all too often, doesn't he? And while he's not human, he's very similar in nature.
You have to take that into account.
It has bien taken into account,
Thats why I place this match to begin with.
Originally posted by id369
It has bien taken into account,Thats why I place this match to begin with.
No, you don't understand. What i meant was that THAT is why the comic book characters like GLs and such are portrayed the way they are. It's called CIS. Character Induced Stupidity.
And AFAIK in these fights it shouldn't be taken into consideration.
What i meant by "it has to be taken into consideration", i meant in comic books, not in simulations of fights on this forum.
Here CIS and PIS are out of the picture.
Originally posted by Dark Urizen
No, you don't understand. What i meant was that THAT is why the comic book characters like GLs and such are portrayed the way they are. It's called CIS. Character Induced Stupidity.And AFAIK in these fights it shouldn't be taken into consideration.
What i meant by "it has to be taken into consideration", i meant in comic books, not in simulations of fights on this forum.
Here CIS and PIS are out of the picture.
Good, so what can post crisis GL Hall do to God Like Cable, no PIS.
Originally posted by id369
Good, so what can post crisis GL Hall do to God Like Cable, no PIS.
Contain him in a shield that can hold a supernova, blast him with planetary destruction blasts, transmute the molecules of air around and inside of him into anything he wants to, including lead, diamond, etc. etc., pound on him with lantern constructs, absorb his energy (doubt he's got more juice than a cosmic cube), etc. etc.
A post crisis GL Hal can do pretty much anything he wants to do really. CIS is the only thing really holding him back 😬
Originally posted by Dark Urizen
Contain him in a shield that can hold a supernova, blast him with planetary destruction blasts, transmute the molecules of air around and inside of him into anything he wants to, including lead, diamond, etc. etc., pound on him with lantern constructs, absorb his energy (doubt he's got more juice than a cosmic cube), etc. etc.A post crisis GL Hal can do pretty much anything he wants to do really. CIS is the only thing really holding him back 😬
Yep that sounds about right ✅
Originally posted by Dark Urizen
Contain him in a shield that can hold a supernova, blast him with planetary destruction blasts, transmute the molecules of air around and inside of him into anything he wants to, including lead, diamond, etc. etc., pound on him with lantern constructs, absorb his energy (doubt he's got more juice than a cosmic cube), etc. etc.A post crisis GL Hal can do pretty much anything he wants to do really. CIS is the only thing really holding him back 😬
Really,
But you cant deney that Cable has a way to deffend himself to each of his attack's.
True or not True.
Originally posted by id369
Really,But you cant deney that Cable has a way to deffend himself to each of his attack's.
True or not True.
Not true.
Can he defend himself against a bubble that can hold a supernova? Can he defend himself against a bubble that can hold the exploding energies of Imperiex who's said to have enough energy in him to take out the Universe (Basically DC's amped up Galactus)?
Those bubbles can constrict and destroy cable. None of his showings make him seem like he could survive anything like that.
Can he defend himself if all the molecules around him are turned into a different element? I really don't think so. I haven't seen him manipulate matter on a molecular level......
Can he defend himself against GL constructs? For a while, maybe, after a while, definitely not.
Can he keep GL from sucking him dry of energy? Hell no. He ain't no goddamn cosmic cube.....which got sucked dry.......
Remember how at the end of the fight Surfer sucks out Cable's powers? GL can accomplish the exact same without the hassle of having to drag Cable around the place through buildings and such 😬
So nope......he can't defend himself against the GL.
Originally posted by id369
Ill be more specific, Cable can increase his strength to class 100
You seen him do that? I sure didn't......when did he do that? 😕
Originally posted by id369
He can Contain GL in own force field
Except GL can break out of it and Cable can't break out of GL's.
Originally posted by id369
He can make astral projection, flow his molecules through another solid object to become intangible.
Has he done this? When has he done this? 😕
Originally posted by id369
With the vast psionic powers he basically has the ability to do what ever he wants.
Not really.
All in all, i've never seen him increase his strength the way you say he has. Or maybe i have and forgotten, so please remind me. It wouldn't matter anyway, because 100 tons or 10.000 tons don't break a shield that can contain a supernova ❌
His force fields are a joke compared to GL's.
I don't recall him using astral projection. Xavier was using astral projection, he was using the telepath-telephone.
He CAN'T do whatever he wants. The GL's most noted trait is that he can do whatever the hell he wants aslong as he has will power. And the top tier have craploads of will power.