Cable vs Green Lantern

Originally posted by id369
Funny how you only point out things when they are to your advantage.

So what happend to the other source, that states the samething I am telling you.

Cable and Xman age genetically Identicle, deal with it. And Psionic powers can be used to augment its own strength. Cable is more than capable of doing so.

I didn't mention the Uncanny X-men link, because THAT's a fan site as well. I thought from what i said about Wiki, you could generalize, but it's ok, i understand that i have to be more specific.

They're not genetically identical. Have you seen Gattacca? There, you could choose whether you have a child just by having sex, or whether you choose the best genes out of a gene pool and have a perfect child. A test-tube child. There's a difference between the Sinister-made X-man and the "put some barry white on" made Cable.

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Notice how a difference of 2 % is the difference between humans and chimps. If the difference between Cable and X-man is 0.1 % it's still a drastic difference.

And yeah, Psionic powers can be used to augment a character's strength, but i've seen no proof of Cable doing it, so saying he can is still just an ASSUMPTION.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Well some would say
GL > Silver Surfer. Therefore GL > Cable too.

I agree! 😄

Originally posted by dvampire
I agree! 😄

I'm not sure that GL> SS, but both GL and SS >>>>>>>> Cable

Originally posted by Dark Urizen
I didn't mention the Uncanny X-men link, because THAT's a fan site as well. I thought from what i said about Wiki, you could generalize, but it's ok, i understand that i have to be more specific.

They're not genetically identical. Have you seen Gattacca? There, you could choose whether you have a child just by having sex, or whether you choose the best genes out of a gene pool and have a perfect child. A test-tube child. There's a difference between the Sinister-made X-man and the "put some barry white on" made Cable.

Notice how a difference of 2 % is the difference between humans and chimps. If the difference between Cable and X-man is 0.1 % it's still a drastic difference.

And yeah, Psionic powers can be used to augment a character's strength, but i've seen no proof of Cable doing it, so saying he can is still just an ASSUMPTION.

Yes it is an assumption that Cable can augment his strength thru psionic powers.

But you haven’t answered me what silver surfers base strength is.

Because from the scans above its seems a hell of a lot more than class

Originally posted by id369
first of all, this is Marvel comics not gattica.
And the comic itself stated that they are Genetically Identical. They even mention the freaking comic.
If we want to get technical X-Man is A paradoxical being born of a reality that never will exist

Yes it is an assumption that Cable can augment his strength thru psionic powers.

But you haven?t answered me what silver surfers base strength is.

Because from the scans above its seems a hell of a lot more than class

I know these are comics and not Gattaca. But have you ever heard of the term "analogy"? It's ok if you haven't, let me help:

analogy
One entry found for analogy.
Main Entry: anal·o·gy
Pronunciation: &-'na-l&-jE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -gies
1 : inference that if two or more things agree with one another in some respects they will prob. agree in others
2 a : resemblance in some particulars between things otherwise unlike : SIMILARITY b : comparison based on such resemblance
3 : correspondence between the members of pairs or sets of linguistic forms that serves as a basis for the creation of another form
4 : correspondence in function between anatomical parts of different structure and origin

Now you know what an analogy is 🙂

I'm happy that you agree that saying he can augment his strength through psionic means is just an assumption, given the fact that i've yet to see proof of him doing it. 🙂

I don't know what SS's base strength is, although i assume it's about 100. Why would that matter though? Cable was being manhandled. SS could be a 10 tonner, a 40 tonner, a 100 tonner or a 1000000 tonner. Doesn't matter......Cable...........was...............getting.............manhandled.

It's not ok to use X-Man feats as Cable feats.

That would be like using What If comic as a canon...

Originally posted by Dark Urizen
I know these are comics and not Gattaca. But have you ever heard of the term "analogy"? It's ok if you haven't, let me help:

analogy
One entry found for analogy.
Main Entry: anal·o·gy
Pronunciation: &-'na-l&-jE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -gies
1 : inference that if two or more things agree with one another in some respects they will prob. agree in others
2 a : resemblance in some particulars between things otherwise unlike : SIMILARITY b : comparison based on such resemblance
3 : correspondence between the members of pairs or sets of linguistic forms that serves as a basis for the creation of another form
4 : correspondence in function between anatomical parts of different structure and origin

Now you know what an analogy is 🙂

I'm happy that you agree that saying he can augment his strength through psionic means is just an assumption, given the fact that i've yet to see proof of him doing it. 🙂

I don't know what SS's base strength is, although i assume it's about 100. Why would that matter though? Cable was being manhandled. SS could be a 10 tonner, a 40 tonner, a 100 tonner or a 1000000 tonner. Doesn't matter......Cable...........was...............getting.............manhandled.

So do you finally see that X-Man is genetically Identiacal acroding to MU.

Its not an analogy. Its their version of the facts according to the MU.
Don’t come crying to me about it, I didn’t write the comic.

Now speaking of analogy .
Since X-Man are genetically Identical analogy speaking.
They have the same class in power
And since it has been seen that X-Man can augment his power - by way of psionic
And it has been seen that Cable can deliver destructive power- by way of psionic

It is safe to assume Cable can augment his power in class.
But yes SS taped that, put not once in any crossover match between any GL vs SS

Has a GL ever broken his board. Not even with all the PIS and CIS thrown into the Mix.

Am I wrong comic expert

You alway's got to assume that the silver surfer>green lantern since a green lantern's power's are variable.

cable and nate r NOT the same, this has been discussed n proven, n i would NOT say that recreatin the whole damn enviornment, holdin back on ur uncontrollable psychic powers, trying to reason with ss with no intention of fightin n BREAKIN his board is bein MANHANDLED! plus that was a crappy showing.

silver surfer is greater than a gl because his powers are MUCH more vast in scope n slightly stronger even in their respective classes than a gl. ofcourse gls have WAYYYYY more PIS. n now to the topic at hand, cable wins.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
cable and nate r NOT the same, this has been discussed n proven, n i would NOT say that recreatin the whole damn enviornment, holdin back on ur uncontrollable psychic powers, trying to reason with ss with no intention of fightin n BREAKIN his board is bein MANHANDLED! plus that was a crappy showing.

Well it wasn't like SS was trying to kill him or anything. He was just trying to make him submit and give up and stop fighting.

u also forget that even when ss is fighting people like thanos hes NEVER tryin to KILL em{almost} cause he has one of the most noble souls in the universe, doesnt stop em from goin all out{nearly}

Originally posted by leonheartmm
u also forget that even when ss is fighting people like thanos hes NEVER tryin to KILL em{almost} cause he has one of the most noble souls in the universe, doesnt stop em from goin all out{nearly}

Originally posted by leonheartmm
u also forget that even when ss is fighting people like thanos hes NEVER tryin to KILL em{almost} cause he has one of the most noble souls in the universe, doesnt stop em from goin all out{nearly}

But thats thanos. a cosmic being. Not a mutant from earth. Do you really think he would use even the quarter of the strength that he uses to fight a cosmic being like thanos to fight a mutant from earth. Not trying to downgrade and insult Cables powers I'm just trying to say that SS would never use his full strength to fight any human.

Okay, i'm obviously not getting through to you. I think it's because you have some issues, but hey, it's ok, i'm not judging. I mean it takes some people a long time to understand how 1+1=2 so......i'll try to take this step by step in a desperate attempt at making you understand.

Originally posted by id369
So do you finally see that X-Man is genetically Identiacal acroding to MU.

No. I don't see it. Mr. Sinister is a genetic GENIUS. If you take a guy and his "clone" and then work on the clone on a genetic level to make it reach its maximum power therefore eliminating anything that's not perfect, then the clone and the original may have similar or nearly identical DNA, but they're definitely not the same.
Another analogy.

Compare a piece of coal to a diamond. They're basically the same. But not quite if you get my drift. Cable is the piece of coal. X-man is the diamond. (figured i'd have to mention, since you seem to be eternally confused. Some would call that a mental illness, but i'll just assume you're a bit.........naive )

Originally posted by id369
Its not an analogy. Its their version of the facts according to the MU.
Don?t come crying to me about it, I didn?t write the comic.

Your naivitee (the one some would call a mental illness) once again confused you 🙁
Read my post again. You'll notice my comparison between how babies were made in Gattaca and how Cable/X-man came into being was an analogy. So again, my confused friend, you're wrong . It was indeed an analogy. Read the definition again

Originally posted by id369
Now speaking of analogy .
Since X-Man are genetically Identical analogy speaking.

They're not identical. And what do you mean "analogy speaking" ? Is that some sort of expression in the English vocabulary i wasn't aquainted with? Because it could be 😕
I mean, my native language isn't English so......what does "analogy speaking" mean? 🤨

Originally posted by id369
They have the same class in power

No they don't ❌

Originally posted by id369
And since it has been seen that X-Man can augment his power - by way of psionic

Yes he can.

Originally posted by id369
And it has been seen that Cable can deliver destructive power- by way of psionic

Yes he can.

Originally posted by id369
It is safe to assume Cable can augment his power in class.

Wow.......that was just.........wow......... shock

So let me get this straight. Because one of them can use his psionic powers for destruction and a guy who is SIMILAR to him can augment his strength with psionics, then the guy who can use the destructive powers, can augment his traits? 😕
Your logic is not only flawed. It reaches a WHOLE new level of wrong.
It's like saying: Northstar can use his powers to create an enormous burst of blinding light, because his twin sister Aurora can. Ummm........no.......sorry......you're wrong yet again ❌.

Originally posted by id369
But yes SS taped that,

Like......with a VCR? 😕

Originally posted by id369
put not once in any crossover match between any GL vs SS

I'm sorry, i can't decypher what you meant in this sentence 🙁

Originally posted by id369
Has a GL ever broken his board. Not even with all the PIS and CIS thrown into the Mix.

Has a GL ever tried? 🤨
Has Cable ever contained a Supernova in force fields? Just so you know, a Supernova releases somewhere around i think 10 to the power 44 joules energy (though i may be wrong).
Has Cable ever contained the energies of Imperiex which were said to be strong enough to destroy the Universe?
Has Cable ever absorbed the energy of a COSMIC CUBE?
Has Cable ever blown up a planet?

Originally posted by id369
Am I wrong comic expert

In most cases yes, unfortunately
But i don't pretend to know everything, i can be wrong, you just haven't proven me wrong yet IMO.

OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by thesilverspider
OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Slavery is bad 🙁

But thanks 🙂

Originally posted by Dark Urizen
Like......with a VCR? 😕

😆

Sinister: “ Look at the magnificent effort I made on your behalf. “
X-Man: “ Is that…me? But I don’t remember any of this -- “
Sinister: “ Of course not. “
Sinister: “ How I labored. For centuries I waited for such a magnificent combination – the Prelate Cyclops with a wondrous telepath named Jean Grey. I waited for the two of them to come together and finally…with a slight touch of growth acceleration…The result was more than I could have imagined. “
X-Man: “ That’s a lie! I was taken from the pens – tortured but I escaped! “
Sinister: “ Really? “
[ X-Man vol. 1 No.4 June 1995. pp. 11. ]
Writer; Jeph Loeb / Pencils; Steven Skroce / Editor in chief; Bob Harras

First and foremost Sinister never filtered or altered X-Man's DNA aside from the excerpt you see above and the " fail safe " later explained in Flash Backs : X-Man no. -1, 1997. His DNA merely stewed in a module which acted like an artificial womb. Nate Grey is ultimately no different than Nathan Summers aside from the circumstances of their development. ( Ie; Nathan was given the techno-organic virus meant to kill him while Nate was given a " failsafe " meant to kill him. Notice any odd similarities? ) According to every comic in which Nathan and Nate have encountered one another it has more than often made emphasis that each of these characters were genetically identical and had the exact same powers and potential. The differences between them were meant to represent the theory of Nurture versus Nature.

X-Man vol.1 No.14 April 1996
Cable vol.1 No. 29 May 1996
Cable vol.1 No.30 April 1996
Cable vol. 1 No. 31 May 1996

Here is a list of their early encounters. Each one of these issues makes a grueling emphasis on the FACT that both X-Man and Cable are genetically identical. They also state the FACT that their powers are exactly alike aside from the circumstance that Cable, at the time, was infected with the techno-organic virus which impeded the use of his vast telepathic and telekinetic powers.

X-Man – Potentially the most powerful mutant on Earth, young Nate Grey is what Cable could have been in another time, on another world. Genetically identical to Cable, he posses all the same powers – but without the techno-organic virus to inhibit them.

Stryfe: “ How ironic we spring from the same genetic fountain. And you seem as divergent from the source material as I am. Some would say I was a clone. But they would be mistaken. I was twisted and sculpted from birth to let loose my hatred – to bring chaos to this pathetic world – and it is a purpose I relish. “
Stryfe: “ You possess immense psi-energies even beyond your comprehension, young one…but not mine. Soon those energies will be completely siphoned from you and channeled into me. “
Stryfe: “ You have that unmistakable psi-signature…you are also a child of Scott Summers. But you are not Cable. Like me, you are a perverse shade of my accursed foe. “
[ Cable vol.1 No. 63 January 1999. pp. 25 Blood Brother part 2 of 3. ]
Writer; Joe Casey / Pencils; Stephen Platt & Andy Smith / Editor in chief; Bob Harras

This excerpt is from one of the last encounters between X-Man, Cable AND Stryfe. This is when Marvel presented a preview panel before the issue which gave a semi-detailed account of what happened in the previous issue as well as character bios which informed you who was who and their place in the issue. Notice what the issue says about X-Man? Hm. Below are the final issues in which they all appear. Each stating the same.

X-Man vol. 1 No. 46 January 1999
X-Man vol.1 No. 47 February 1999

These are the facts straight from the issues which included BOTH characters. I have provided issue numbers, dates and writers so you can confirm my findings.

Now on topic, Can a God-Like Cable defeat Green Lantern ( Hal Jordan )? I think he has a 50/50 chance. While Silver Surfer was physically indestructable, Hal isn't. He's still mortal and still flesh and blood. That means that any of Nathan's telepathic and telekinetic attacks which work on a sub atomic level would do damage. Not to mention his extensive experience on the battle field.

nathan, ur forgetting many OTHER things that tell us that nate n cable rent the same. first off, nate WAS engineered, n thas how sinister built the failsafein him. secondly nate had the real jean as his mother n not madyline pryor. third, he is physically NOTHING like cable in stature or height. also their powers are DIFFERENT, nate also had an aging virus withholding his potential just like cable's techno organic one, also as part of his NATURAL mutation cable has class 10 strength, but nate does NOT posess this mutation, he has normal human strength, fact is, nate n cable have DIFFERENT dna's n nate was genetically engineered when cable wasnt.