Cable vs Green Lantern

Started by id3697 pages

Wait, before I even continue, am I allowed to use some of X-Man feats along with cables.

The reason I say this is b-cus, Cable did not stay Form for to long for him to give unquestionable doubt of just how strong he is, or the reason why he could potentialy be stronger than a GL.

I usually stick with one cara, but a hand full of comics vs hundreds off feats from another is not going to prove my point.

And finnally they are gennetically Identical, and thier power is the same, Wich is the other reason why I chose to borrow some of his feats.

If no then I guess I shouldnt continue.

Originally posted by id369
Wait, before I even continue, am I allowed to use some of X-Man feats along with cables.

The reason I say this is b-cus, Cable did not stay Form for to long for him to give unquestionable doubt of just how strong he is, or the reason why he could potentialy be stronger than a GL.

I usually stick with one cara, but a hand full of comics vs hundreds off feats from another is not going to prove my point.

And finnally they are gennetically Identical, and thier power is the same, Wich is the other reason why I chose to borrow some of his feats.

If no then I guess I shouldnt continue.

I don't think you can.
Cable was the love child of a Jean grey clone and Cyclops.He was Born like anybody else.

Nate was artificially created by Sinister. Using his Genetic skills he combined the proper genetic material to produce the greatest results possible .

Originally posted by Jose123
I don't think you can.
Cable was the love child of a Jean grey clone and Cyclops.He was Born like anybody else.

Nate was artificially created by Sinister. Using his Genetic skills he combined the proper genetic material to produce the greatest results possible .

Thier genetic make up is Identical, the means of how they came to be is diff (Duh) In any case they both use Psionic, Telekinesis, Psychic powers.

I belive that the reason why they didnt Continue to write Cable having such powers was

A- wanted to avoide the unpopularity that Shaman X-Man recived.

B- Some one that might have interfeared with House Of M, as he would have pose a challange to Wanda.

Besides thier is enough Borderline Cosmics as it is. And it was prob a good dec to depower Cable. (I think it would have gotten boring)

Originally posted by id369
Thier genetic make up is Identical, the means of how they came to be is diff (Duh) In any case they both use Psionic, Telekinesis, Psychic powers.

I belive that the reason why they didnt Continue to write Cable having such powers was

A- wanted to avoide the unpopularity that Shaman X-Man recived.

B- Some one that might have interfeared with House Of M, as he would have pose a challange to Wanda.

Besides thier is enough Borderline Cosmics as it is. And it was prob a good dec to depower Cable. (I think it would have gotten boring)

how can they be identical?
One was artificially created by one of the smartest geneticist in world to be the perfect mutant by taking out all the crap and matching the genetic material to have the most perfect results.

While the other was born normally with no enhancements or messing around with his genetic material to achieve the greatest effects.

can't compare the two.

Originally posted by Jose123
how can they be identical?
One was artificially created by one of the smartest geneticist in world to be the perfect mutant by taking out all the crap and matching the genetic material to have the most perfect results.

While the other was born normally with no enhancements or messing around with his genetic material to achieve the greatest effects.

can't compare the two.

Both were made by Mr. Sinester in diff time lines.

Both took years of reaserch For Mr. Sinester to come up with the perfect genetic match up to make one Uberly powerfull Mutant.

Both were made to be a weapon to bring down Apo.

Cable - was born by good old normal means of Clone Jean and Cyclops.

X-Man- born as a test tube baby (some what) from genetic samples of both Jean and Cyclops.

Tell me what part of genetically identincal dont you get?

Originally posted by id369
Both were made by Mr. Sinester in diff time lines.

Both took years of reaserch For Mr. Sinester to come up with the perfect genetic match up to make one Uberly powerfull Mutant.

Both were made to be a weapon to bring down Apo.

Cable - was born by good old normal means of Clone Jean and Cyclops.

X-Man- born as a test tube baby (some what) from genetic samples of both Jean and Cyclops.

Tell me what part of genetically identincal dont you get?

well when you put it that way

Originally posted by Jose123
well when you put it that way

Ill wait if some one else approves, that X-Man Feats along with Cable feats maybe allowed.

Please Keep in mind that That its bien over 3 pages of Thread when I started this thread. If your not convinced after 3 post alone you wont change your mind even after I explain myself now.

I just want to give my reason why I came to think that God Like Cable could possibly take down GL- Hall. That is all.

and I cant do it with just a hand full of comics that desmostrated his real potential, when thier is over hundreds of comics that show GL real potential.

I just want to get my point across you can are free to view/judge as you please.

Originally posted by id369
Ill wait if some one else approves, that X-Man Feats along with Cable feats maybe allowed.

Please Keep in mind that That its bien over 3 pages of Thread when I started this thread. If your not convinced after 3 post alone you wont change your mind even after I explain myself now.

I just want to give my reason why I came to think that God Like Cable could possibly take down GL- Hall. That is all.

and I cant do it with just a hand full of comics that desmostrated his real potential, when thier is over hundreds of comics that show GL real potential.

I just want to get my point across you can are free to view/judge as you please.

When I said "well when you put it that way" I was agreeing with you that they where genetically Identical.

But I still don't think that X-man or J.Cable can take out a GL.
Anyone of them can give a GL a good fight but eventually they would both go down.

Originally posted by Jose123
When I said "well when you put it that way" I was agreeing with you that they where genetically Identical.

But I still don't think that X-man or J.Cable can take out a GL.
Anyone of them can give a GL a good fight but eventually they would both go down.

I know.

But I only wish that you arnt the only one who thinks so.

I'd say no, just like Jose123. X-man may have the same genetic material, but not the exact same DNA sequence. There's no proof of that 😬

Like Jose said, it's like comparing a mongrel between let's say a dobberman and a rottweiler to the same but made in a test tube, with the good genes enhanced, and the bad genes taken out, etc. etc. etc.

Plus, there were a LOT of people that liked X-man and hated the fact that he died. Marvel would've jumped at the occassion of making a "new" X-man out of God-Like Cable if they were indeed as you say identical.

Plus, and this is the third and last reason why i don't see them as equal and hence not being able to use X-man's feats, Cable had plenty of space in the cable and deadpool series to show X-man level powers, but he didn't.

Not only that, but unlike X-man who was a stupid teenager, Cable was an experienced warrior that came into such incredible powers. If he had the equal of X-man's power, he would've been doing even crazier shit than him. I'm sure of it.

Originally posted by Dark Urizen
I'd say no, just like Jose123. X-man may have the same genetic material, but not the exact same DNA sequence. There's no proof of that 😬

Like Jose said, it's like comparing a mongrel between let's say a dobberman and a rottweiler to the same but made in a test tube, with the good genes enhanced, and the bad genes taken out, etc. etc. etc.

Plus, there were a LOT of people that liked X-man and hated the fact that he died. Marvel would've jumped at the occassion of making a "new" X-man out of God-Like Cable if they were indeed as you say identical.

Plus, and this is the third and last reason why i don't see them as equal and hence not being able to use X-man's feats, Cable had plenty of space in the cable and deadpool series to show X-man level powers, but he didn't.

Not only that, but unlike X-man who was a stupid teenager, Cable was an experienced warrior that came into such incredible powers. If he had the equal of X-man's power, he would've been doing even crazier shit than him. I'm sure of it.

My point is not to use X-Man feat per say, but how its powers could be used. In just a hand full of comics of Cable and Deadpool it wont be enough to get my point across.

Originally posted by id369
My point is not to use X-Man feat per say, but how its powers could be used. In just a hand full of comics of Cable and Deadpool it wont be enough to get my point across.

Again, not the same thing. It's like comparing things that a white belt 10 year old can do compared with a zen budist master or something...

Forget it. Ill start anyways.

Cable can endow his strength to class one 100 by augmenting his strength with his psionic powers.

This can be seen in Cable vs Silver Surfer. How simple what class of strength is Silver Surfer, and what are they doing the first part of the
match? they are Cable is holding him down and holding back I might add.

True or not True.

Not only that X-Man showed he can Psionically charged and hit powerful blows to his opponents, the way he litterly beat Sinister to death.

So is thier any doubt that he can fight at class 100 strength?

Originally posted by id369
Forget it. Ill start anyways.

Cable can endow his strength to class one 100 by augmenting his strength with his psionic powers.

This can be seen in Cable vs Silver Surfer. How simple what class of strength is Silver Surfer, and what are they doing the first part of the
match? they are Cable is holding him down and holding back I might add.

True or not True.

Not only that X-Man showed he can Psionically charged and hit powerful blows to his opponents, the way he litterly beat Sinister to death.

So is thier any doubt that he can fight at class 100 strength?

First Two scans:

the fight with Silver Surfer was incredibly one-sided. The first scan is the first page from the issue i believe. Anyway, if you look again, you'll notice Cable hard as he may try can't even stop SS.
What the hell did you read? Cause it sure as hell wasn't C&D Issue 10 which you posted from. Cable does NOT hold Surfer down not even ONCE. He doesn't even STOP Surfer until he breaks the board, and then Surfer shoots eyeblasts on Cable leaving him nearly dead, and reforms his board instantly.

There was NO showing of strength. Not even 1 ton of strength, let alone the class 100 you're mentioning.

Not in the entire series has Cable been shown to be able to increase his strength and durability through TK. FFS, even Deadpool nearly shot him in the head. He stopped the bullet just as it was piercing his skull.

So no, those two scans prove nothing. He was trying to stop Surfer, and he couldn't. The simple fact that he had to resort to breaking the board is more than enough proof that Surfer couldn't be stopped by Cable, and he had to attack his means of transportation. Kinda like you can't stop a train, but you can make it derail if you attack the railroad.

So no, those two scans pretty much hurt your argument and prove nothing.

On to the next two scans:

That is X-man. X-man is NOT cable, regardless of what some may say. They may have the same basic DNA, but so do humans and chimps.

Originally posted by Dark Urizen
First Two scans:

the fight with Silver Surfer was incredibly one-sided. The first scan is the first page from the issue i believe. Anyway, if you look again, you'll notice Cable hard as he may try can't even stop SS.
What the hell did you read? Cause it sure as hell wasn't C&D Issue 10 which you posted from. Cable does NOT hold Surfer down not even ONCE. He doesn't even STOP Surfer until he breaks the board, and then Surfer shoots eyeblasts on Cable leaving him nearly dead, and reforms his board instantly.

There was NO showing of strength. Not even 1 ton of strength, let alone the class 100 you're mentioning.

Not in the entire series has Cable been shown to be able to increase his strength and durability through TK. FFS, even Deadpool nearly shot him in the head. He stopped the bullet just as it was piercing his skull.

So no, those two scans prove nothing. He was trying to stop Surfer, and he couldn't. The simple fact that he had to resort to breaking the board is more than enough proof that Surfer couldn't be stopped by Cable, and he had to attack his means of transportation. Kinda like you can't stop a train, but you can make it derail if you attack the railroad.

So no, those two scans pretty much hurt your argument and prove nothing.

On to the next two scans:

That is X-man. X-man is NOT cable, regardless of what some may say. They may have the same basic DNA, but so do humans and chimps.

Are you blind or act like you blind. If Silver Surfer wanted to he should have out classed Cable like a rag doll but he didnt.

Its stated thats his class 100, And for a long time it has bien said that if cable did not have the TO. his power would sky rocket.

As for the second scans, X-Man and Cable have the same class of power, and you said it your self Cable>X-Man b-cus of training and upbringing. So what makes you think that Cable cant do the same.?

Originally posted by Dark Urizen
Again, not the same thing. It's like comparing things that a white belt 10 year old can do compared with a zen budist master or something...

From Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Man
As a result, their genetic and psychic profiles are identical, although Nate is much younger (having done no time travel) and much more powerful (Cable is actually near or equal to Nate's power level, but must constantly devote his mental resources to fighting the Techno-Organic virus). Moreover, Nate and Cable hail from completely different backgrounds.

from http://www.uncannyxmen.net ,

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=73&page=3

[Cable (2nd series) #29]

At the same time, Xavier had invited Cable and Blaquesmith to the mansion to discuss the situation regarding this young Nate Grey with him, Moira, Jean Grey and the X-Men leaders, Storm and Cyclops. Suspicious because of Nate’s similarity to Cable’s evil clone, Stryfe, and in awe of the sheer scope of his powers, they noted that the major difference between Nate and Cable, who are genetically identical, was that Nate’s unbridled power

Whats up you have something else to say comic expert?

Originally posted by id369
Are you blind or act like you blind. If Silver Surfer wanted to he should have out classed Cable like a rag doll but he didnt.

Its stated thats his class 100, And for a long time it has bien said that if cable did not have the TO. his power would sky rocket.

As for the second scans, X-Man and Cable have the same class of power, and you said it your self Cable>X-Man b-cus of training and upbringing. So what makes you think that Cable cant do the same.?

I think you're the one with selective reading skills. The fact that SS didn't directly demolish Cable proves only that he's a nice guy. Not that Cable can stand up to him.

SS can and has shown the ability to AUGMENT his strength to class 100. Doesn't mean he goes into every fight with Class 100 though.
Are you ignoring or just aren't aware that in his God-Like version, Cable didn't even care about the TO virus anymore, and that he was keeping it at bay like breathing? Are you also unaware that the TO virus actually increased his strength? I'm not sure what your point here is. Without the TO he'd be stronger? FALSE. Without the TO his TK powers would be greater? Again, to God-Like Cable it DIDN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

Don't twist my words. Where did i say Cable>X-man? Again, don't compare humans to chimps.

Originally posted by Dark Urizen
I think you're the one with selective reading skills. The fact that SS didn't directly demolish Cable proves only that he's a nice guy. Not that Cable can stand up to him.

SS can and has shown the ability to AUGMENT his strength to class 100. Doesn't mean he goes into every fight with Class 100 though.
Are you ignoring or just aren't aware that in his God-Like version, Cable didn't even care about the TO virus anymore, and that he was keeping it at bay like breathing? Are you also unaware that the TO virus actually increased his strength? I'm not sure what your point here is. Without the TO he'd be stronger? FALSE. Without the TO his TK powers would be greater? Again, to God-Like Cable it DIDN'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

Don't twist my words. Where did i say Cable>X-man? Again, don't compare humans to chimps.

Do you know what Silver Surfer base strength is? Its a more than class 10 thats for sure.

And I already showed that Psionic powers can be used to augment its strength.

Also what happend to X-Man and Cable not being geneticaly identical?

Maybe you should just stay out of this topic.

Originally posted by id369
Do you know what Silver Surfer base strength is? Its a more than class 10 thats for sure.

And I already showed that Psionic powers can be used to augment its strength.

Also what happend to X-Man and Cable not being geneticaly identical?

Maybe you should just stay out of this topic.

And he was beating Cable, so there's no proof Cable can augment his strength.

Psionic powers may be used to augment someone's strength, but Cable didn't do it in his God-Like status. So where's the basis for assuming he can?

Wikipedia is written by guys like you and me. They're not always right. Just like i'm not always right. However, seeing as how they ARE different, even with very similar DNA, the differences can be devastating. Things that X-man did in his series, God-Like Cable didn't even come close to doing. And with his training and experience, don't you think if he could've done them he would've THOUGHT of done them or at least attempted?

Maybe you should use logic 🙂

Originally posted by Dark Urizen
And he was beating Cable, so there's no proof Cable can augment his strength.

Psionic powers may be used to augment someone's strength, but Cable didn't do it in his God-Like status. So where's the basis for assuming he can?

Wikipedia is written by guys like you and me. They're not always right. Just like i'm not always right. However, seeing as how they ARE different, even with very similar DNA, the differences can be devastating. Things that X-man did in his series, God-Like Cable didn't even come close to doing. And with his training and experience, don't you think if he could've done them he would've THOUGHT of done them or at least attempted?

Maybe you should use logic 🙂

Funny how you only point out things when they are to your advantage.

So what happend to the other source, that states the samething I am telling you.

Cable and Xman age genetically Identicle, deal with it. And Psionic powers can be used to augment its own strength. Cable is more than capable of doing so.