Originally posted by Blind Guardian
Yoda didn't show him anything; it was Dooku's own imagination.
So the sheer immensity of Dark Yoda's Force power that Dooku sensed was simply his imagination?
Considering that besides that, we also have Dark Yoda speaking, and even changing hue(for whatever reason), I'd like to say that it was in there to, plot wise, show Dooku exactly what he was dealing with, and what he *could* be dealing with.
but i read somewere that in his meditation after knowing that dooku was dark, he DID go dark just to know why such a good jedi went bad.
after that i think yoda recalled some memories and projected them to dooku thereby scaring the crap outa him.
after that, by showing the will power to return to light yoda proved impervious to the seductions of the dark side, thats why he was able to live in such a dark place like dagoba, he's like " been there, done that"
Originally posted by Lightsnake
sion could have more than one weakness: When Yoda finds the right topic, even on the futility of the Dark Side like he did with Dooku in Dark Rendevous? Bam, nailed...ever seen a Dark Side Yoda? Terrifying prospect
Sion does not have more then one weakness, he has one reason to live. That reason is Kreia. That is his weakness, simple as that.
Sion is also the leader of the Sith Assassins meaning that just like all other assassins he drains the force from those he fights. Meaning that Yoda will just get weaker throughout the fight while Sion will not.
There is also no evidence to show that Sion his body can break, if anything its the exact opposite. He had every bone is his body broken and his body is cut into billions of pieces and he still stands. He does this by the force alone... His lightsaber abiliity's and his force command are probably not on Yoda his level. But I don't see Yoda taking him down. Kreia does not love Yoda, Sion has no reason to hate Yoda.
Yoda can't destroy the force or rip it from Sion his body, Sion on the other hand constantly does that against Yoda. Yoda isn't superior enough with a lightsaber to take him down either. Yoda is more powerful but probably can't win.
Originally posted by Fishy
Sion does not have more then one weakness, he has one reason to live. That reason is Kreia. That is his weakness, simple as that.
To say this is foolish. If Sion believed he could not win, but would be simply defeated and come back over and over again, he would lose hope and die. Or if he runs out of matter. He can't come back if his ability to use the force is cut off by say, the severing of his head or a lightsaber strike vaporizing his brain.
Originally posted by Fishy
Sion is also the leader of the Sith Assassins meaning that just like all other assassins he drains the force from those he fights. Meaning that Yoda will just get weaker throughout the fight while Sion will not.
Just because he leads the assassins doesn't mean he drains the force as they do. Sion was a Jedi, then Sith, not one of them.
Originally posted by Fishy
There is also no evidence to show that Sion his body can break, if anything its the exact opposite. He had every bone is his body broken and his body is cut into billions of pieces and he still stands. He does this by the force alone... His lightsaber abiliity's and his force command are probably not on Yoda his level. But I don't see Yoda taking him down. Kreia does not love Yoda, Sion has no reason to hate Yoda.
A lightsaber strike will vaporize the part of his body it touches. If it didn't, Sion would never have been defeated and then come back, he would simply de undefeatable in KOTOR.
Originally posted by Fishy
Yoda can't destroy the force or rip it from Sion his body, Sion on the other hand constantly does that against Yoda. Yoda isn't superior enough with a lightsaber to take him down either. Yoda is more powerful but probably can't win.
There is no real indication that Sion drains the force. It's little more then poorly supported speculation.
The Exile had to defeat him at least once to win the game. Malak should be able to pretty well take the Exile since he was Revan's apprentice and the second strongest in the order, and most would argue Yoda could take him.
Sion can't regenerate what matter is varporized by a lightsaber strike. Yoda would win after a very long and tough fight.
To say this is foolish. If Sion believed he could not win, but would be simply defeated and come back over and over again, he would lose hope and die. Or if he runs out of matter. He can't come back if his ability to use the force is cut off by say, the severing of his head or a lightsaber strike vaporizing his brain.
Lose hope to win? How long do you think Yoda will last? Not forever, he'll get tired and there is a big chance that Yoda will think he can not win before Sion thinks that. Especially because Yoda has no idea of Sion his ability's. And just look at your sig, the guy is cut up in a million pieces. Its described as if thousands of vibroblades cut every part of his body but for some reason he is still in tact. Its all to possible that he can't be cut up, and if he can then how big is the chance that Yoda will take his body part. He is not a weak lightsaber dueller. And Yoda isn't a good attacker as we have seen in his fights, he takes his sweet ass time.
Just because he leads the assassins doesn't mean he drains the force as they do. Sion was a Jedi, then Sith, not one of them.
Those assassins used to be Jedi and then became Sith, I don't see what that has to do with anything.
And to quote Kreia. The Sith Assassins drain the force as well to fill the hollow places where the force used to be. Sion is one of those guys, we know Nihilus took out Sion once and we know that Sion surrounds his opponents and weakens them before fighting. His assassins who fight like him did so with Lona Vash, and on the Harbringer This is how Sion works.
A lightsaber strike will vaporize the part of his body it touches. If it didn't, Sion would never have been defeated and then come back, he would simply de undefeatable in KOTOR.
When the Exile faced him on Korriban Kreia told him to run, even when he was winning the fight because Sion could not die. Kreia knows that the only way to kill Sion is to either drain the force from his body or to defeat his will. Its the only real explanation for Sion. It is possible that his body can be cut, but unlikely. If that were the case it is strange that he still has all his limbs because he was cut many, many times.
There is no real indication that Sion drains the force. It's little more then poorly supported speculation.
The Exile had to defeat him at least once to win the game. Malak should be able to pretty well take the Exile since he was Revan's apprentice and the second strongest in the order, and most would argue Yoda could take him.
Sion can't regenerate what matter is varporized by a lightsaber strike. Yoda would win after a very long and tough fight.
Only thing is Kreia says he does. The Exile did defeat him through his willpower, yes. If he really defeated Sion in a fight can be doubted, bbut he probably did. And yet still Sion stood. Meaning what? That either the Exile was an idiot and didn't try to cut of arms hands heads or whatever or that it was impossible. Yoda is more powerful and he might win this fight, but on the other hand Sion has a few advantages that can not be ignored. He could very well be unbreakable. In a fight to the death that makes Sion win...
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Yoda would win. Sion was defeated by the Exile, meaning he can be beaten. Ok he did keep ressurecting but was still beaten. Yoda has more control of the force than the Exile and has better lightsaber skills(I don't want to get into a Exile vs Yoda debate cause we all know the KOTOR fanboys hate having their KOTOR gods questioned).
Now I admit I am a fanboy for the movies and the EU with the exception of KOTOR. I did not mind the game but the storyline left me cold. How can we be sure what powers Revan, Exile etc have when it is up to the user to decide? I don't believe KOTOR belongs in the EU - just my opinion but I think it should be an infinite-type storyline.
Hmm...do we really know how Sion works ? I might be wrong but I thin KotoR II says that nearly every bone in his body was broken and he just managed to remain "alive" using the force to keep that parts together. The only "wounds" he has is some on his chest and the right side of his face. Yet everything else seems to be just minor cuts.
I personally don't think that he can manage to keep parts of his body in place if they get cut off with a lightsaber. And the KotoR game design doesn't allow to cut body parts off or cut people into pieces. So the Exile basically only caused enough "wounds" on his / her enemies to kill them.
And we basically know that Sion can't keep body parts in function if they are destroyed. Kreia at the Harbinger basically threads him as if he's physically blind which might be possible if you look at his face (right eye is gone) and while he might be able to survive "normal" lightsaber hits, blaster hits (that wound on his chest appears as if a blaster did hit him there - same with his face) I don't think that he can keep parts of his body if they are "cut off". So Yoda might be able to "slice him into pieces" which possibly won't kill him but making it impossible for Sion to continue fighting.
If that's the case Yoda might very will win because he seems to be the superior lightsaber duellist and force user.
The Exile didn't know enough about him at the time and didn't know about his incredible ability. Sion probably also protects his vital organs with the force, so it wouldn't be too easy too use the force to destroy them, but I am sure someone with enough mastery over the force would be able to. Yoda possibly.