Emperor Palpatine versus Darth Malak

Capitalised on someone's hard work? Well usually if you inherit an Empire, that's what you do 😆

And has no impact on Malak's power at all.

Well if I was to inherit the British Empire in 1896 and then build it up, I would be technically "capitalising" on somone elses work, something which you seem to be implying is like plaguirism.

Yeah, great ingenuity on Malak's part. Course....nothing really about power there, considering he ruined what Revan was trying to do

True, Revan's work was ****ed up by Malak. But what does that have to do with fighting!?

What does inheriting an empire have to do with it? all he did was pick up Revan's hard work. Doesn't say much for Malak

Stop arguing "feat wars".

Then give me actual things to go on. 'Harnessed the power of a star.' Rubbish, all he did was grab Revan's work

What so the Star Forge was created by Revan?

He certainly began activating it

Well, the ancient sith has knowledge of it, too.

point being?

I really do not see what Revan has to do with this fight or the conquering of the galaxy for that matter...

But just to adress a few points here.

Movie novelizations are not cannon, they contradict the movies and they are therefor wrong. The only one that could be considered cannon is the ANH novelization, but that was written by GL...

Malak did rule over high council members, the Disciple says so in Kotor II. When one of them after Malak his dead tried to control the Star Forge he was absorbed by it because he was to weak. Malak also took out Kavar in a fight most thought Kavar had died. Nobody else except for Revan had the power to challenge him.

Now really all you have done in tihs thread is going off topic and trying to continue you your Sidious and the Skywalkers rule crusade... Its getting old and boring to fight you over the same thing in every thread without getting anywhere with you. So either stay on topic and discuss this and not some bullshit on conquering the world or the skywalker children or leave the thread.

Movie novelizations are official. They were announced as official sources by Leland Chee and parts that do not contradict the movies can be used-as when Leland cited part of the AOTC novelization.

Considering the stupidity of the Jedi in that era, it's no wonder Kavar lost.

And why don't you take your own advice and stop your little 'Ancient Sith/Revan/Exar Kun are God' crusades?

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Using the phrase 'retarded farmboy' invalidates anything you may have to say. Like I said, in Truce at Bakura, Luke starts displaying quite the feats of power. He pulls spirits from the Ssi-Ruuvi tech, destroys a horde of Ssi-Ruuk, uses the force to physically 'die' and destroy a contamination within him...
You mean I'm comparing them to a stupid brute who capitalized on someone else's hard work? You mean the grandchildren of the Force who had prophecy backing them to a random idiot of a Sith?

Yep

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Movie novelizations are official. They were announced as official sources by Leland Chee and parts that do not contradict the movies can be used-as when Leland cited part of the AOTC novelization.

Considering the stupidity of the Jedi in that era, it's no wonder Kavar lost.

And why don't you take your own advice and stop your little 'Ancient Sith/Revan/Exar Kun are God' crusades?

What Crusade??

And stupidity of the Jedi in that era? You are right now just reaching the level of fanboy you know that right? With answers like that. Show us some reasons already, or just admit that Sidious would lose from Malak.

Gee, Sidious only....kills three very powerful Jedi in a matter of seconds, wipes out a small army with force lightning because one of them shot his drink, rips a ship apart with the force....Malak's....looked threatening and died?

And yeah, the Jedi of that era tend to be incurably stupid. See the Sith War, and Golden Age of the Sith...apparently helping dictators crush secessionists is what Jedi like to do, as well as ignoring grave threats and helping out people so evil they might as well break into demonic laughter at any second! Can't forget the moronic approval of Ulic Qel-droma's plan, and Master Arca deciding to turn his back on a massive army of Krath droids to lecture Ulic...shouldn't mention the Jedi Council in KOTOR either...

Sidious killed three Jedi masters in seconds... and lost to mace the other stuff is bullshit, Malak ruled over High Council Members defeated their most powerful in combat, killed god knows how many mandelorians and Jedi in two galaxy spanning wars both of which he fought on the front lines.

And wtf on that second paraghrap, the PT era Jedi were smart? Have you seen their attack on Geonosis it was nothing short of stupid, they just jumped in there to die. Not going after Dooku like they should. They through all of the PT failed to see Sidious his idea's even when they were next to him. They failed to act when they could have and later on they put all their hopes into a farm boy that should convince his father to destroy the Sith.

Yoda knew damn well that Luke would never win from Sidious, he wouldn't stand a chance yet still they let him go, everything they have done screams stupidity. And yeah actually you should mention the Kotor council, because well really they aren't that stupid if you ask me, I might disagree with them but stupid?

OH RIGHT....
I think sidious faked to get anakin over to the dark side....
Anything against this? i can explain....

Originally posted by Kaithen
OH RIGHT....
I think sidious faked to get anakin over to the dark side....
Anything against this? i can explain....

GL in the commentary of the ROTS DVD says that Mace overpowered Sidious, so he wasn't faking his lightsaber skills.